Originally Posted by
Butkus
you want to talk about a clueless post.... you just won it!
" TBC was never known for PVP"
TBC was the best pvp wow has ever had, 1v1's all arena brackets open world bgs all much better balanced then anything wrath had. the issues that classic wow had got fixed in TBC then when they rolled wrath out it was crap for 3/4ths of the x pac.
wrath gave us dk's.... the most broken op'ed class wow has seen and i do not care if they got "tuned down a little" last patch they were still broken same goes for pallys, 1 man armies remember that, sure you do. nothing in TBC was as op'ed or as broken as dk or pallys in wrath , nothing.
this 3v3 in wrath was the most balanced crap people like you love to talk about, please stop it. 3v3 in wrath was not more balanced then 3v3 in TBC or any other x-pac. the ONLY thing 3v3 in wrath gave wow was more specs VIABLE = more specs that can do well in 3v3. this in no way means better balanced pvp, more specs = means specs not better balanced. i could say live wow has more specs in pvp then any times in wow and its does but that does not means its better balanced.
3v3 got active in wrath because classes like dks and pallys broke 2v2 and blizz took rewards from 2v2 and scrapped the bracket telling everyone is you want titles and tier 2 weapons/shoulders you have to play another bracket. so everyone was FORCED to play more 3v3, so at what point are we seeing great balance in wrath? def not 1v1 or open world, not in 2v2 or 5v5, not in bgs. matter of fact the ONLY pvp aspect anyone can talk about from wrath and say yeah that was pretty good would be 3v3 towards the end of the x-pac only. thats "not the best/peak pvp of wow" sorry its not and yes all of wrath counts not just the last patch. TSG was great only after arms got an overhaul mid x-pac cause it was broken... add in the op'ed human racial broken raid gear/trinkets remember rets out healing healers?yeah good times...
again you can say wrath had more specs viable for 3v3 ONLY but do not say it was better balanced pvp as a whole, wrath pvp was a huge step back. more specs in pvp does not mean better balance actually it means worse balance.
as for the rest of your post
so when you introduce a system for people to bypass the whole purpose of the expansion(cash shop for PVE TBC Endgame items) it defeats the idea of playing the expansion."
that is 100% how all x-pacs work in wow is it not?you progress your toon from day 1 to end game over time...if people paid for say shadowmoure in the cash shop does that not bypass the purpose of raiding/grinding icc for months?yes it does.
"nobody quit playing tbc because it was too much of a "grind". the peak of outland population was when there was still attunments for raids/revered for heroic keys."
that i agree with but like i said in my other posts everyone is spread out now thats the issue.