Assumptions:
- each player has equal level gear
- pvp specced
- each player is equally skilled in terms of keybinds, knowledge of class, and muscle memory / reactions
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Assumptions:
- each player has equal level gear
- pvp specced
- each player is equally skilled in terms of keybinds, knowledge of class, and muscle memory / reactions
Well in an Arena environment I would say the rogue can actually do it if he knows how to handle the ret paladin. Since the rogue should pillaring whole game waiting for cds to reset and bandaging. The blood/uh dk should have no chance to the rogue unless he stacks up resi/stamina going for the big vampire blood/rune healings. The ret however should be able to win the dk when he sit 1h/shield waiting for dk to trinket into hoj/wings.
The blood dk starts lagging win chances in the moment he gets kited by ret with judgement of justice, spam dispel chains of ice.
The rogue however is the squishiest one of the three. So mistakes like trinketing a wrong hoj or getting caught in opener w/o cloak, wasting cloak for Chains of Ice and getting marked of blood while dk sit in rogues face will make him easy lose. Dk can play really gay with ghoul position behind him, gnawing the Cheap shot into icebound fortitude the kidney shot.
I think the most interesting part is the rogue vs ret. the rogue might win when he save a vanish for bubble and actually manage to cloak a repentance or hoj. The ret can’t do stuff as long as rogue kite him to Africa and abusing his ability to wait for his CDs. Rogue should use Garote/rapture in dance while running for restealth into ambush/kick when ret start healing. This lock rets holy tree so he can’t CC the rogue. However it requires a good rogue who know what to do.
In openfield i would say ret>dk>rogue unless rogue manage to pull of some vanish hoj/death grip.
When dk is countergeared he might be able to win vs rogue in arena setup but won’t actually put any pressure to the ret.
When dk goes for Deep UH he might can burst the ret supa quick into the bubble to finish of with garg/strang.
Actually the top duel specs are like: feral>sp>subl>uh/blood dk=fmage>ret=enh.
Although the enh should be able to win vs everyone when enemy’s have no clue and so should everyother spec be able to win.
Balance Druid can have its moments in 1v1 too, when going for spirit spec / running, healing waiting for next starfall.
Retribution.
If Blood DK has unholy blight and stacks stamina+resil then it's endless duel, if bdk doesn't have at least one of those things, Ret wins. vs rogue retri wins even if he plays with his legs.
Bdk wins rogue if he has good resil, rogue can't heal (except bandage, but that's very little) and BDK has 5 abilities to use to heal.
Technically, it would be 1v1v1.
Triple threat world PVP matches would be pretty fun to see, by the way.
Getting locked out of holy? This is a full bulgaria paladin, if you are going to use a full bulgarian paladin for the example, for fairness u must also use a full bulgarian rogue who will cloak during the opener and kick whenever it's off cd.Quote:
Originally Posted by raissawnator
Paladin is top class in outlasting gay parade.
He will win, all Warmane's tournaments prove that.
Rogue has ZERO chances against ret paladin with same gear and skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by raissawnator
1h + freedom on kidney
Ret killing blood dk? Funny joke.
Read again, its clearly says (or is implied) in all replies that its a forever duel if the DK has taken unholy blight, however with dispellable diseases all you do as a ret is spam dispell on yourself whenever any disease is applied to you. This means the DK cannot heal or really do damage. And because runes have a CD you can still outheal the pure phyicial damage/do damage yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXiMuS54
Rogue can win any blood dk basicly so many ways to reduce and disable him from healing, needs to be played right though. I never lost to one yet, faced the resil/stamina kind, the pve tank kind, the more offensive pvp kind, and the offensive pve kind. You can go double pve, even if you are non human race what do you need to trinket the closest hybrid spec is the one where u are basicly a frost dk/uh dk ans no longer a real blood dkQuote:
Originally Posted by Evangelion
Ret will kill the rogue though if he actually has a slight idea what he's doing even if you pillar hump etc unless you are in a wpvp zone where u can eat etc maybe then there is a better chance
As I said, if BDK has Unholy Blight AND resil/stamina stacking then it's endless duel, if BDK lacks at least ONE of those things ret wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXiMuS54
If you play smart, probably, if you fight him face on BDK can't lose to a rogue. However... how many rogues play smart on this server?Quote:
Originally Posted by ward666
Fake news. You can still spec unholy blight and never be dispelled. Rune tap alone is enough to insure death never comes. And stamina gems? Don't make me laugh. The only real problem Blood Dk would have is lacking offensive power to kill the ret.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meowto
Ret paladin would win..
...but if u change dk to frost or unholly he would destroy rogue and ret, with some luck dk would solo them both together.
No he woudnt. Dk vs Ret comes down to if ret has bauble, with it he wins. Also, a rogue can win the duel vs a DK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiutolog
"that its a forever duel if the DK has taken unholy blight"Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXiMuS54
"Fake news. You can still spec unholy blight "
Also, the reason for stamina gems is that the blood DK can never kill ret, never oom ret (bauble), never win. Ret however can get a crit on every single ability during wings and win by pure RNG, stamina gems prevent that.
No, if you changed the Death Knight to Frost or Unholy the Ret would win most of the time.