Overall hidden nerf to WW ?

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December 3, 2015
Style95

Overall hidden nerf to WW ?

Okay so last few days i ve noticed something very wrong with WWs damage in general, i ve played monk for 1 year straight now to notice these kind of sudden changes.I am fully griveous geared, with tailoring and engenering, dancing steel on MH i have 50% pvp power (2pvp trinkets + alot of pvp power gems)

For example - Fighting a arms warrior who is in defensive stance - popping 10 stacks + tiger palm , no trinket proc , no eng gloves, no back enchant proc and my Fist of fury was hitting 20k ? I mean come on 10 stacks ? for real ?

Another one - fighting a warrior again - he is below 30 % (second wind) i have no offensive cds up, maybe there were procs but i havent popped stacks and the warrior's hp doesnt move while i crit him for 40k rsk ?

3rd last - hunter who has no defensives up no aspect of iron hawk - i had all procs and 10 stacks up and i critted him for 120k rsk which is rather low, becouse before i got numbers like 150-170 with all those buffs up (10stacks, back proc, tiger palm, rsk debuff, engeneering, griveous trinket)

I am just asking if anyone has noticed a slight change, i may be SUPER unlucky with damage rolls becouse rsk and most of monk's abilities have rather big damage gaps between lowest and highest calculated damage possible, but still i cant be that unlucky...
December 7, 2015
steelrock

I started to main WW monk for the last couple of weeks. 505 ilvl atm. Today did 2s cap and in few occasions i managed to completly delete 522 warrs, hunters, mages, spriests... Even when my partner died i managed to pull 1v2 win against fully geared players. Dmg is crazy. When everythings proced + burst fof is doing like 80k on warrs. Ofc w/o defensive cds. Clothies getting hit for 150k RSK. Cant imagine what would happend if i were fully geared... Really crazy class and spec (and super fun to play).
December 14, 2015
badaco

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Originally Posted by steelrock

I started to main WW monk for the last couple of weeks. 505 ilvl atm. Today did 2s cap and in few occasions i managed to completly delete 522 warrs, hunters, mages, spriests... Even when my partner died i managed to pull 1v2 win against fully geared players. Dmg is crazy. When everythings proced + burst fof is doing like 80k on warrs. Ofc w/o defensive cds. Clothies getting hit for 150k RSK. Cant imagine what would happend if i were fully geared... Really crazy class and spec (and super fun to play).

exactly same as me

think its a really good class , very fun , always active and something to do

downside ToK sometimes seems " buggy? "

and tmogs , the sets are hedious ugly lol
December 20, 2015
Ciamciaramcia

Yesterday i test dps with my friend.He is full Grievous warrior,and i play as WW monk (full Grievous too).I hit him with Tiger palm buff 21k+ RSK (no crit) and 15k+ BK.I have 41% crit and he crit more than me(he have 21% crit).Even when he have RSK debuff i dont see difference with my dps.So i think monk or warr have bugged dmg.This ****ing Deep Wounds hit harder that my RSK or BK.He's DW hit me about 30k crit and my RSK with TB (10 stack) hit about 50k crit.
February 10, 2016
salvares

WW monks need more nerf. atm they are too powerful. Literally no one counters them 1v1
February 10, 2016
Tomcile

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Originally Posted by salvares

WW monks need more nerf. atm they are too powerful. Literally no one counters them 1v1

No one counters them 1v1? Have you been doing PVE and just decided to randomly comment on monks section?
There are classes that counter monks. Yes, ww is a strong 1v1 class due to mobility and decent off heals, yet they are in no way too powerful. If not the opposite, as there are still loads of bugs nerfing ww already.
February 10, 2016
slaveforus

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Originally Posted by Tomcile

No one counters them 1v1? Have you been doing PVE and just decided to randomly comment on monks section?
There are classes that counter monks. Yes, ww is a strong 1v1 class due to mobility and decent off heals, yet they are in no way too powerful. If not the opposite, as there are still loads of bugs nerfing ww already.

Ur an obvious troll. Everyone who played retail knows monk ruined 2s in MoP. Here is some proof if u wanna keep this lame charade going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYh1qfwmMXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPYDxn6y3ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5cy2ARkU8I

Also i like how u say that there are counters for a monk without actually mentioning them. Pathetic...
February 10, 2016
Tomcile

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Originally Posted by slaveforus

Ur an obvious troll. Everyone who played retail knows monk ruined 2s in MoP. Here is some proof if u wanna keep this lame charade going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYh1qfwmMXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPYDxn6y3ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5cy2ARkU8I

Also i like how u say that there are counters for a monk without actually mentioning them. Pathetic...

Wow. The great justification of a point with Youtube videos. My dear friend, let me tell you how your comment has zero value:

1) The 1vX arena videos have no value to a debate whether a class is 'too powerful', because they are all done on ridiculously low MMR's. Streamers like Soda and Ziqo (even on LK) have done that loads of time on stream with little to no effort. Not to mention that a video can be collated over a long period of time, so eventually even a rdruid would get enough montage to form a video.
2) I hate to break it to you, but we are playing on Frostwolf, not retail. Which means we are dealing with bugs and changes (the recent resilience increase without new gear implementation, to mention just one) that completely change the pvp meta and your videos once again have zero value.
3) "Also i like how u say that there are counters for a monk without actually mentioning them. Pathetic... " My decision to skip the counter classes was not accidental. I will be honest with you, I am not a great duel'er, neither I ever wish to be one, thus my knowledge of which class counters which is fairly limited. However, based on several forum threads (you can find them on Frostwolf section) surrounding ww's and my ingame experience in arenas, I am aware that some classes do indeed counter monks (my top pick would be a fmage) and in no way they are 'too powerful'.

So for the future, I suggest you stick to Swifty's YT videos and leave the comment section intact.
February 14, 2016
toniplavna

WW are gods here so stop qq.
April 28, 2016
Darkina919

Yea WW are really good. But! The class still have some problems.
Xuen, Karma and in general the output damage. Meanwhile warriors can still bug their damage forever and ever, ignoring armor/resi and idk what else.
February 10, 2017
WolfCD

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Originally Posted by slaveforus

Ur an obvious troll. Everyone who played retail knows monk ruined 2s in MoP. Here is some proof if u wanna keep this lame charade going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYh1qfwmMXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPYDxn6y3ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5cy2ARkU8I

Also i like how u say that there are counters for a monk without actually mentioning them. Pathetic...

And they were fairly bad in 3s, and not really top tier in 2s either. They were the best 1v2 class though.

Very good rogues delete monks, frost mages can kill a monk without taking any damage, a good feral can kill any monk (but also vice versa) just for examples.

Also, just for reference, https://www.twitch.tv/videos/48557810 here you have monk 3s, 2s,healing and damage in 5.5.8 by probably the best monk that played during mop (its in german, but the stream itself isnt the important part). Check dps/healing there first if you think something is bugged.