[Guide] Sublety rogue duel guide
Hello pals. I'm Willkidney from deathwing (Used to play on neltharion and sargeras too while they was on WOTLK with name Maykidney) and i'm going to teach u how to actually duel with a sublety rogue.
I saw many rogues failing duels so much so i'll tell u how actually i duel versus each class.
Warriors (Wound + Crippling poison):
- Open on warrior instantly with shadow dance
- Your opener should looks like prem>slice and dice > cheap shot and instantly garrote
- Pop evasion now in case the warrior trinkets your cheap/kidney so make sure he doesn't rend you
- Kidney shot after Cheap+Garrote(you should have 5cp), and use 2 ambushes
- After that use rupture, and shiv and go away from warr
- Don't go too far away. Make sure u're in the dead zone so he can't Auto attack you or Charge
- Pop sprint if needed while kiting and if warr is starting to getting away use Cloak to remove his slow so you get into the dead zone again
- Watchout for crippling poison(don't let it expire, come near warr and shiv whenever it's almost done)
- Wait for your kidney CD while getting combo points from bleeds
- When you get kidney step > kidney warr and backstab him til 5 cp (if he trinkets blind>slice and dice, if he doesn't rupture and kite again)
- Repeat this kiting unless he trinkets, when he trinkets > blind him and reopen (this time you should have your dance back and you'll be able to kill him in dance
-Care with vanish. Use it only when needed, don't waste it. Use it while u have no rend and wihle u're too far away form warr so he can't unstealth you.
-THIS TAKES LOADS OF PRACTICE
Paladins (Instant and wound):
-Crippling poison is useless.
-If they play with a 1h+Shield it's really hard to beat them.
-Open with dance Cheap> wait a bit for energy > garrote and instantly kidney (so they can't use HoF for the 1st 3 sec of kidney) and spam ambushes. After they use freedom u can rupture and vanish or use cloak+evasion and keep dmging them (when cloak went's off vanish then) (Using cloak in case they wanna stun/repentence u so make sure 1 of that will miss but if pala is skilled he won't try it while u have cloak)
-Trinket his stun, disarm his wings
-Gouge whenever u can (for the full duration) and restealth
-This is really hard matchup, they're one of your strongest anti class.
Hunter (Wound + Crippling):
-Open with dance with Cheap > Ambush > kdiney > ambush > ambush
-They'll prolly trinket your kidney so disarm them right after
-If they use disengage and u're not in flare u can vanish
-Reopen with Cheap>backstab> kidney > backstabs
-Make sure u use evasion so their pet doesn't stun u
-Blind when they start runing away and gouge pet so you can restealth
-Remove traps whenever you can.
-This shouldn't be hard matchup
Rogue (Wound + Crippling):
-Most ppl says it's RNG (aka random aka luck). Who gets opener wins but it's not always like that. You can always outplay your opponent.
How to outplay?
-When you open, probably all rogues will trinket kidney so you can try to Gouge, vanish or blind 1 sec after u use kidney but care this can backfire to you if rogue wants to see your reaction 1st.
-Simple rvr not that hard stunlock and outplay wins.
Priest (Wound + Crippling):
-Open with dance and pull the best burst that u can. Actually it goes
-Dance > Cheap shot > ambush > wait for a bit energy > kidney > ambush > Ambush > eviscerate
-They'll probably try to fear you now. If they do (DO NOT TRINKET THE FIRST FEAR)
-They'll put full dots on you i know. Go step, and start spamming backstab or hemo until u remove his shield. (cloak if dots are making too much dmg) and gouge him after the cloak (before he puts dots on you)
-If he uses dispersion on cloak u can vanish it or simple gouge restealth.
-Reopen, (he's without shield now so he'll probably try to trinket the kidney) If he does instantly blind him and restealth
-3x saps so you get your full cds back and gg u win.
Death Knights (Wound+Crippling)
-People says that it's impossible to beat DKs and i pretty much laugh on that.
-What i do is > Sap the dk > wait for energy > come near him and pop evasion
- Why evasion? You don't want his pet to stun you
-After evasion instantly use dance and burst the dk
-You should og like cheap > ambush > kidney > ambush > garrote > rupture > vanish away
-He'll prolly try to find u so he'll dot u before u vanish away use cloak and vanish.
-Wait your cds in stealth, if he tries to eat sap him (nvm if your bleeds gonna break the sap, just don't let him eat.)
-When you get the cds back (kidney) reopen cheap > backstab > kidney > backstab > backstab
-Dk will probably trinket cause he'll be low hp bcs of your 1st burst and bleeds if he does just blind him gouge pet and reopen
-Now when u reopen pet will prolly stun u but u can trinket it and gg u win. It's not that hard matchup
Shaman ele (Wound+Crippling):
-Sap the shaman, and go out of stealth destroy his magma totem (and that totem that gives him 1000 armor) if he uses that one.
-Restealth, open with full burst, if he thunderstorms you get back with shadowstep
-If he doesn't trinket keep dmging him
-Cloak his Elemental mastery while he has instant lava burst
-Vanish when u get kidney off cd, and stunlock him again (cheap > backstab > kidney > bs > bs)
-He'll prolly trinket, just blind him and reopen.
-This is easy matchup.
Frost Mage (Wound + Crippling):
-Sap the mage and go near him (DO NOT STAY BEHIND HIM)
-What i wanted to say stay behind, but a bit on left or right (where you can't auto attack him)
-Use garrote (MAKE SURE YOUR AUTO ATTACK WONT BREAK THE SAP) and kidney instantly
-He's silenced can't blink, after the kidney some mages will blink some will deep freeze u.
-If he deep freezes you don't trinket sit in it he'll prolly go for polly. Trinket the poly and step back behind him do some dmg
-If he blinks use vanish and go somewhere (make sure he won't find u easily)
-Sap him open with the dance (same tactic with garrote kidney)
-He'll prolly blink again use cloak and sprint get to him
-If he uses block stay infront of him and gouge him instantly after block ends.
-If you do restealth and win
-If you don't try to prep vanish or something. If he menages to poly u again, he will win. If he doesn't u'll.
Warlock (You can use instant+crippling or wound+ crippling nvm)
-Warlocks are OP class right. So you gotta play like a nerd to win them.
-Ambush > vanish > prep
-Ambush > vanish
-Ambush > cloak > dance > cheap > ambush ambush (he'll trinket) > blind
-If you're nelf u'll be able to go in 1 more vanish if you're not gouge pet if u can and reastealth
-Reopen with ambush evis and win.
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I hope i didn't forget any class. btw
BEFORE U OPEN EVERY TIME USE PREM > SLICE AND DICE. Thanks
I hope it helps.