Whats the point of even joining bgs Horde

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February 28, 2019
Grungir

Whats the point of even joining bgs Horde

Since crossrealm PvP got enabled. Theres absolutely no point even queeing for bgs as a horde. Aliance wins every single BG. Today i played over 30 bgs. Still about to win that first one. Before the crossrealm got enabled, the bg queue times were longer, but at least it was balanced. Aliance was wining about 6-7matches out of 10. Not 99/100.

After crossrealm got enabled i stopped playing bgs completely bcz it was like this. Now i though i give it a chance. For last about 6 days i was playing bgs all day for about 6 hours a day. And in 6 days i won 2 bgs. 1x Eye of storm and 1x Alterac Valley. In about 150 bgs played. Most of bgs are like 2-3minute loses where aliance wins EoS 1600/0 and same with Arathi basin. Theres absolutely no point even trying to quee for bgs since crossrealm got enabled. It effectively killed bgs.

Also another problem, i barely got any good pvp gear, but got really good pve gear. Therefore even if i quee in my 5,6 pvp gear i get matched only vs full wrathfull shadomourne players all day and getting 1shot by charge bladestorm all day is noway near fun. I bet warmane you must see it yourself that Lordaeron players participation in battlegrounds dropped significantly since crossrealm enabled. All my friend who i used to play bgs premades with all the time dont wanna even quee for bgs bcz they know how that will go. Crossrealm killed pvp on lordaeron.
March 1, 2019
CelticLordaeron

Just stop...I joined an AV yesterday and Hordes had literally 500hks per person....lol Sometimes your faction does well sometimes it doesn't. I've had plenty of bad losing streaks since the merger. If you ask me the Alliance is due some wins.
March 1, 2019
Duubadaaba

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Originally Posted by Grungir

Since crossrealm PvP got enabled. Theres absolutely no point even queeing for bgs as a horde. Aliance wins every single BG. Today i played over 30 bgs. Still about to win that first one. Before the crossrealm got enabled, the bg queue times were longer, but at least it was balanced. Aliance was wining about 6-7matches out of 10. Not 99/100.

After crossrealm got enabled i stopped playing bgs completely bcz it was like this. Now i though i give it a chance. For last about 6 days i was playing bgs all day for about 6 hours a day. And in 6 days i won 2 bgs. 1x Eye of storm and 1x Alterac Valley. In about 150 bgs played. Most of bgs are like 2-3minute loses where aliance wins EoS 1600/0 and same with Arathi basin. Theres absolutely no point even trying to quee for bgs since crossrealm got enabled. It effectively killed bgs.

Also another problem, i barely got any good pvp gear, but got really good pve gear. Therefore even if i quee in my 5,6 pvp gear i get matched only vs full wrathfull shadomourne players all day and getting 1shot by charge bladestorm all day is noway near fun. I bet warmane you must see it yourself that Lordaeron players participation in battlegrounds dropped significantly since crossrealm enabled. All my friend who i used to play bgs premades with all the time dont wanna even quee for bgs bcz they know how that will go. Crossrealm killed pvp on lordaeron.

Ppl wonder if get one shotted in PvE gear. Everyone SHOULD get pwned most of the the time, untill gearing decent resilience. (there are exeptions ofc. but with full wrathful healers). PvE geared BG's success was just an illusion and gargoyle of this game.

Crossrealm saved Lordaeron PvP all 6 Battlegrounds. .Horde rules atm Crossrealm premades 95% won at least. Gear for more PvP and make/join premades. Have you even tried play weekly fair 10 arenagames for better than Furious? I assume you have at least Furious now after so many BG's you played this far. ( I also assume there must be typo in your 5.6k PvP must ment PvE?? because i don't think 5.6k PvP is bad at all).

As hunter BM i'm ok with my 5.7k mixed gear 850 resilience. I havent even tried obtain better raid gear, or even 1550 arena rating. Here still happy with my dungeon bow :D
I understand your frustrating about Horde PuGs tho... But atm. all BG guilds and vets are Horde, making premades. Bad *** ones. (Icecrown)

I said before, and i say it again: We have here Lordaeron very low standards for battlegrounds gearing.
I don't prefer gearscore but only making this fast. Everyone can gear up 5.5k PvP gear here without raids, just doing weekly 10 fair arenagames.
Maby few VoA. And if you have professions, go for business and buy few crafted (ICC patterns) epics, and ICC BoE for more.

Battlegrounds are much better after Crossrealm. Not only we have all 6 BG's actives now, but also what comes faction balance in BG's . Thx for Staff's good work with balancing factions gearing in BG's. But i agree with the fact, Horde PuGs are weaker than Alliance PuGs very often. Premades!! Horde have almost instant queue advantage for Premades. Still Alliance waits 20 minutes for solo queue :D

- Sibe -
- Sibeicc -
March 1, 2019
Ostlimpa

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Originally Posted by Duubadaaba

Crossrealm saved Lordaeron PvP all 6 Battlegrounds. .Horde rules atm Crossrealm premades 95% won at least. Gear for more PvP and make/join premades.

That's the Alliance premades, not the Horde ones mate.

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Originally Posted by Duubadaaba

I understand your frustrating about Horde PuGs tho... But atm. all BG guilds and vets are Horde, making premades. Bad *** ones. (Icecrown)

3 people from a PvP guild is not the same as a full premade. While there are a few players from eg Old D making prems they are normally only 3-5.

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Originally Posted by Duubadaaba

Battlegrounds are much better after Crossrealm. Not only we have all 6 BG's actives now, but also what comes faction balance in BG's .

It is indeed good you have BGs!

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Originally Posted by Duubadaaba

Thx for Staff's good work with balancing factions gearing in BG's.

Eh what? What balance?

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Originally Posted by Duubadaaba

But i agree with the fact, Horde PuGs are weaker than Alliance PuGs very often. Premades!! Horde have almost instant queue advantage for Premades. Still Alliance waits 20 minutes for solo queue :D

In other words: Not balanced. It is also quite lame that one side must form together in special premades just to even have hopes of standing a chance.
March 1, 2019
Duubadaaba

@Ostlimpa
Yes i'm talking as Alliance perspective, and cossrealm effects i experienced this far, as Alliance thats true.
Fact is that Icecrown Alliance BG guilds and vets faction changed couple years ago to Horde, only for abusing instant queue for premades. For farming serious HK's, not "just to have hopes of standing a chance" . View Icecrown armory for HK's. Horde massive multiboxer and Horde players all (but 4 atm. top 50).

Lower geared players queue solo. Horde PuGs are weaker, because most of BiS players premades, avoiding lower geared players. But man those Horde premades raped us Alliance PuGs BIG Time. Premades after premades. Gear balancing tweaks made this little more "balanced" for Alliance.

There is more than one premade often, and AV enabler is enough for making difference.
Dunno about AV enabler use lately, but was in hard use in Alliance premades before guys left to Horde in Icecrown. Battleground numbers not in use anymore so synching AV groups is at least harder... if impossible.

If i said this is balanced game, i defenitely don't mean optimal. We have here 3 realms. Every realm have different gearing rules and rates. A difficult task without more radical changes. Icecrown is the main problem here with super overgeared population imo. 4 hour queue full of BiS charachters.
Blackrock added crossrealm almost only Alliance players makes this even harder for Horde in numbers...
I say we have very colorful situation on here :D

Lets go to "Moltdown II" and build from scratch new solid Custom WotLK 2020 crossrealm PvP server. Include maby one small but extreamly painfull hardcore PvE only realm for PvE heads who wants kill scripted programs. Win-Win everyone happy :S
I know.. no need to make poll for this one :D but straightforward solution huh?

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- Sibeicc -
March 1, 2019
Meowto

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Originally Posted by Grungir

Also another problem, i barely got any good pvp gear, but got really good pve gear. Therefore even if i quee in my 5,6 pvp gear i get matched only vs full wrathfull shadomourne players all day and getting 1shot by charge bladestorm all day is noway near fun. I bet warmane you must see it yourself that Lordaeron players participation in battlegrounds dropped significantly since crossrealm enabled. All my friend who i used to play bgs premades with all the time dont wanna even quee for bgs bcz they know how that will go. Crossrealm killed pvp on lordaeron.

I think it kinda fitting that the people who only get carried by gear and bad opponents (i.e your friends) suddenly refuse to play once the bgs got fair. Also 5.6 + bis pve gear is more then enough for any bgs if you are willing to just get gem resi. (bis setups for a lot of classes are way sub 1k resi for bgs)
March 1, 2019
Ostlimpa

Was gonna reply but then I just realised it is pointless. Come back when you got at least 40/60 numbers, pref 50/50.
March 3, 2019
backabit

i have the same problem as ally, after you get geared bgs becomes really boring becouse you know that you will win as ally 95% of the time no matter how bad or good you play.