Discussion about the best Raid Compositions

I create this Topic to launch a discussion about, which are in your mind, the best 25men raid composition for fights like LK25hc and Putri 25hc,
Argue your choices !
The comments mades assuming that you know about basics buffs give by each class-spec, like mass buffs and boss debuffs etc

Here are my proposals :


In a raid with 2 tanks; 5 healers :

Group 1....................... Group 2
Combat ....................... Combat ________Rogues can Tricks the boss at pull, Tricks each other during the encounter to boost their dps.
Fury ............................. Fury ___________Wars are top (3.3.5) mdps take 2 of them if you have skilled players available
FDK ............................. UDK ___________FDK to slow all target availables and standards buffs - UDK for their amazing AOE capacity and a Top 5 dps
Ret ............................... Ret ____________2 Replenishment in the raid are mandatory !
MM ............................ MM ___________Hunters are very mobile, give a Top 3 dps and 2 additionnal MD

Group 3 ..................... Group 4
TTW ............................ Prot ___________Prot Paly give a good multi targets aggro capacity he will be the 2d Tank
TTW ............................ Elem __________TTW are the best rdps (casters) and need to be 2 minimum to be each Focus magic and so earn 6%crit both,
TTW/Fury .................. Demono _______put a 3rd TTW or Fury is a good way to increase efficiently the dps of the whole raid
Boomy ........................ Affliction _______Elem give a good Offheal if needed and give additionnal totem area - Affliction exploit timesout of the encounter
SP ............................... FeralBear _______Boomy give Battle Rez and Meteor - Sp give off heal to the whole group - FeralBear as Main Tank

Group 5
DP_____________________________DP are nonesuch
Resto___________________________RestoSham is a good monotarget healer and he do huge collateral heals
Holy___________________________HolyPal is the best monotarget healer
Resto___________________________Resto smooth the heal on raid
Holy____________________________Holypriest is very multipurpose healer


In a raid with 2 tanks; 4 healers :

Group 1....................... Group 2
Combat ....................... Combat ________
Fury ............................. Fury ___________
FDK ............................. UDK ___________
Ret ............................... Ret ____________
MM ............................ MM ___________

Group 3 ..................... Group 4
TTW ............................ Prot ____________
TTW ............................ FeralBear ________
Elem ............................ Demono _________
Boomy ........................ Affliction _________
SP ............................... SP ______________1 SP is added in group 4 to off heal tanks and rest of Rdps in order to reduce the pressure on healers.

Group 5
DP
Resto
Holy
Resto
SP/TTW/Boomy/Fury/UDK ___________5 choices : SP : Reduce the pressure on healers. TTW : Increase the Rdps (by spells). Boomy : Increase the AOE capacity (in the air) for Frostmourne for exemple. Fury : Increase the Mdps. UDK : Increase the Melee AOE.


In a raid with 2 tanks; 3 healers :

Group 1....................... Group 2
Combat ....................... Combat ________
Fury ............................. Fury ___________
FDK ............................. UDK ___________
Ret ............................... Ret ____________
MM ............................ MM ___________

Group 3 ..................... Group 4
TTW ............................ Demono ________
TTW ............................ Affliction ________
TTW/Fury .................. Elem ___________TTW or Fury depending which sort of damage you want
Boomy ........................ Boomy _________The second Boomy is for Frostmourne phases, you can take a 3rd SP instead, but put it on group 5.
SP ............................... SP _____________

Group 5
DP
Resto/Resto _______________________Choose the most skilled one you have !
Holy
Prot
FeralBear

Give your point of view about theses compositions, made proposals so we can discuss on it and maybe find the very best composition.




Tiny.

I mean your specified raid composition does bring a lot every spec that's useful, but it'd be more useful to know what raid, or even encounter you were looking to optimize the composition for.

Also if you have a Demo warlock then I see very little justification for Ele. There's no situation where swapping it out for say, a 3rd Shadow Priest wouldn't be better.

Ty for the feedback, I have yet precise the encounters considers.

For the Ele. I put one in the raid in order the extend the area of the [Wrath of Air Totem], but all things considers maybe put an Ench. sham can be more usefull because he fight at melee when Resto Sham and Ele fight at range, moreover, to my mind a Ench. over dps an Elem. But the Elem can be usefull as offhealer on critical phases.

Do you think I should remplace the Ele and the 3rd SP by a TTW ? a Fury ? another Spec-Class ? Why ?
For increasing pure raid dps do you prefer add a Fury or a TTW (at equal skill lvl) ?

A balance druid would both do better dps than an ele, can do off-heals, can bress, can innervate, brings 5% crit as well. A spriest can also outdps an ele and bring another hymn of hope or divine hymn, extra soaking of viles, much needed AoE for val'kyr and spirits in fmc, off-healing, passive healing. Generally speaking, in an optimised 25 man raid, there's 0 reason to bring any shaman outside of a restoration shaman for the heroism, specific totems and healing. Or if you don't feel the need for extra precautions or extra raid utility instead of extra dps you could get an extra fury war or ttw mage or a rogue or a frost dk or a hunter.

Yes it seems legit !

And if you have a roster of really skilled ppl (who don't die and don't take useless damages), assuming a 3 healers composition, with what type of roster would you maximize the raid dps ?