Blood DK DPS 3.3.5 (Blood Reaper)

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December 19, 2018
Lerroyy60

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Originally Posted by trm90

Glyph of Disease is the optimal spec. DC accounts for about 5-6% of your total damage compared to DRW which is at least 10%+ and varies depending on fight. avg around 12% based on the tests I did some months ago.

more than twice as DC. the special attacks we're using on the last 5 seconds accounts to 37.5% excluding DRW melee. this all favors DRW. in addition to the fact that you just don't have the luxury of free gcds.

bdk's DC is nothing compared to UH and the lack of free gcds also makes it very limited. uh can really shine in this field. stronger DC , free gcds and also better RP generation per rune value. blood lacks all these three.

going anything less than 2/2 epidemic is a dps loss to your HS count as well, as BDK lucky/unlucky that we refresh our disease on the last tick. lowering the duration is increasing the rate on which we pestilence. 15% more pestilence to be exact which really isn't that much but will compound on longer tank and spank fights.

Thanks for the tips and knowledge. I did some testing of my own, and it might be my lack of experience with the rotation and my lack of gear. In my testing though I found DC with having Glyph of Dark Death on average did around 10% of my dmg while DRW did roughly 7%. Kind of curious it is a like opposite of yours but like I said that is probably from you having better gear and better rotation muscle memory.

I also did the test with both 1/2 in Epidemic and 2/2 in it, and found the dmg was very similar over the span of roughly 3 mins on a target dummy. The management of disease though I thought was much better with 2/2. (This is while using DD glyph)
January 29, 2019
skele007

D. Gear
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From the stats we now know that we will mostly be looking for items with Arp/Str, assuming we are hit/expertise capped.

Here is the BiS list for Blood DK DPS if using str setup/ alternatively you can use agility off pieces for more crit
Head :http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51312
Necklace : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54581
Shoulders :http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51314
Back :http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50677
Chest : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51310
Wrist : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54559
Gloves : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51311
Waist : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50620
Legs : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51313 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51817 (If using Gloren)
Feet : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54578
Ring1 : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=52572
Ring2 : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50693
Trinket1 : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54590
Trinket2 : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50363
Weapon : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=49623 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50730
Relic : http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50459 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=47673

Can U update this Gear link please ?
greets.
July 18, 2019
KaoryBurnley1

so , is it viable to play blood dk ? or like a person said that without shadowmourne i should not do it.
July 23, 2019
Gnimo

Yea, its great, go try it out.
July 29, 2019
HellOhh

Hey guys, i have read the posts from 1-2 years ago. My question: Did warmane fix the issues with BDK? Like DRW and Blood Gorged? Is Blood DPS viable or should i ignore it and play another class?
July 29, 2019
Gnimo

Blood is great, and overpowered, it has no issues. You should go play it. Just spec Blood and enjoy. :)
July 29, 2019
vsetoq

I feel some sarcasm. :D
July 29, 2019
HellOhh

Hey guys,
if DRW is still bugged is it worht skilling Unholy Blight and drop DRW and use the Coil Glyph instead? Can you play BDK like this and do decent dps or should i ignore BDK and try some FDK or UDK?
July 29, 2019
jendah

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Originally Posted by HellOhh

Hey guys,
if DRW is still bugged is it worht skilling Unholy Blight and drop DRW and use the Coil Glyph instead? Can you play BDK like this and do decent dps or should i ignore BDK and try some FDK or UDK?

I dont think there is anything "wrong" with blood atm. It is just worse than other two. Dps is only a bit behind, but it has weak raid utility. Its not that you couldnt play it if you like the playstyle, but look at other specs if you want to squeeze the most out of your dk.
July 30, 2019
HellOhh

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Originally Posted by jendah

I dont think there is anything "wrong" with blood atm. It is just worse than other two. Dps is only a bit behind, but it has weak raid utility. Its not that you couldnt play it if you like the playstyle, but look at other specs if you want to squeeze the most out of your dk.

What is with DRW? People said, and they posted some videos as evidence, that DRW dont gets any of your STATS. Means it has like 5% crit chance and 0% HIT.
And the procs from your trinkets dont buff your DRW, also your Hysteria wont. Blood Spec is all about bursting single targets and your NR.1 Burst-Spell is not working. Seems blood dps is total crap on warmane.
July 31, 2019
Erronius

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Originally Posted by HellOhh

What is with DRW? People said, and they posted some videos as evidence, that DRW dont gets any of your STATS. Means it has like 5% crit chance and 0% HIT.
And the procs from your trinkets dont buff your DRW, also your Hysteria wont. Blood Spec is all about bursting single targets and your NR.1 Burst-Spell is not working. Seems blood dps is total crap on warmane.

Blood is "fine", but behind the other specs in dps in general. My DK is bis or just shy of it and in general I'm looking at ~17-18k on the low-movement bosses, 18.5k on DBS without sunder armor being applied, 22k at the end of phase 1 on LoD, also no sunder applied (aka by 1st transition) with 88% damage dealt to LK and rest being AoE (current guild isn't making it out of phase 2 on LoD so I can't give overall damage for the fight atm). Problem bosses are PP and BPC namely, and LK depending on tank movement -any time I can't stick on LK because he got pulled across the platform quickly my dps tanks, but heart-strike's cleave is decent for valks and ragings so the fight isn't as bad for blood as it could be (but warrior cleave is way stronger, so yeah..).

Blood "sucks" mostly because any rotational mistake dumpsters your dps and any time you have to target swap and move between targets your dps is essentially nothing for several seconds. You bring no raid buff and your role can be filled by another bis fury warrior who will beat you on dps in pretty much every scenario and every fight assuming they're not braindead. Basically you get to play blood dps only if your raid leader likes you and doesn't care enough to make you bring something else lol, and you literally can't afford a single mistake and you need perfect positioning to be competitive on dps -it's a lot of pressure for above average dps.

Basically.. play unholy and if you really have to play blood dps then gear that on the side, but don't expect to be allowed to play it often.

But specifically to answer your question: DRW seems to work fine. It's a huge boost to dps, and some people even say it's doing more damage than it should. If that's the case, it may be the only reason I can do anything close to respectable dps atm lol.
July 31, 2019
Gnimo

There is nothing bugged when it comes to Blood DKs. DRW is working properly.

Blood is just way too OP for you to handle i guess.
Spec is great, and does AWESOME DPS, i dont know why you have issues with it. Maybe the PC and Internet are overheating cos of the DPS you do?
Maybe try some other specs, since they are easyer to comprehend and do less dps overall, so your pc and internet will run smoothly, resulting in more dps.

Overall, keep trying Blood, I believe in time, you will be able to do more DPS than your current gear score for sure!

Best of luck!
July 31, 2019
truthwow1

There is this rumor that on retail a BiS geared blood DK dealed the highest dps out of the 3 DK specs. I have read that multiple times already.
Guess it's either just a myth or it was in earlier patches of Wotlk.
July 31, 2019
dolcokidol

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Originally Posted by truthwow1

There is this rumor that on retail a BiS geared blood DK dealed the highest dps out of the 3 DK specs. I have read that multiple times already.
Guess it's either just a myth or it was in earlier patches of Wotlk.

It's not a myth, but only high monks can achieve the mental agility levels to utilize the spec fully. It's still the top, but only the select few know it's secrets.
July 31, 2019
Gnimo

It really takes brilliance to be able to spam 1 button constantly and not move or switch targets ever, to top the charts. I guess thats why good blood dks are rare...

On the topic of myths from retail age:
I doubt there wer enough GEARED players to compete with "Pro Shadowmourne Blood DKs", maybe thats why they wer "good"?
If you look at the overall class design and BiS dps at the current state of Warmane, Blood DK has no place at the top where Fury Warriors, Mages, Rogues, Ferals, and others rule, and Warmane atm is the closest to retail it has ever been, and most likely ever will be.
So, by using common sense we can see that, the only reason why a Blood DK would top other classes, Fury Warriors, Rogues and Mages especially, would be if the other 3 classes are undergeared and DK is overgeared. Gnimomythbuster2k19ez?!

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