BiS List - T7

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February 13, 2016
Zenjuro

BiS List - T7

BiS List for Arcane Mage:
Optimized for Draenei, 3% Hit from SP/Boomkin and 6% from Talents.

Head - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40416
Neck - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44661
Shoulder - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40419
Back - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44005
Chest - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44002
Wrist - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44008
Hands - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40415
Waist - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40561
Legs - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40417
Feet - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40558
Ring 1 - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40399
Ring 2 - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40719
Trinket 1 - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40255
Trinket 2 - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40432
Main Hand - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40396
Off Hand - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39766
Wand - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39426

Enchants&Gems:

Weapon - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44467
Head - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44877
Shoulder - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=44874
Back - http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=47898
Chest - http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=60692
Wrist - http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=60767
Hands - http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=44592
Waist - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=41611 with Red Gem
Legs - http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=41602
Feet -http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=47901
- Use your Profession Enchants if you have them instead.

Meta: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=41285
Red: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39998
Yellow: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40051
Blue: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40026
- You want to use every Gem in the correct colour. (Meta is active because Neck/Back/Chest)

If you have improvements or suggestions feel free, keep in mind that fights are relatively long on Lordaeron, that's why I prefer a few items with +40 Spirit vs +3 Haste for example.

Zen <Paradox>
February 14, 2016
ItsAmeSinta

isnt the OS+1 loot chest better than t7?
also, are you sure getting the tier set is better than skipping it for the insane 226ilvl eoe pants and shoulders?
February 14, 2016
SanguiniusQ

http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45691 what about this ring? u just listed that stuff thats available @ptr...pretty sure this is bis, aswell as os+1 robe if u got the hitcap with draenei + sp, but thats just such a minor difference to heigans + t7.5 head.
Nevertheless good work.
February 14, 2016
Zenjuro

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsAmeSinta

isnt the OS+1 loot chest better than t7?
also, are you sure getting the tier set is better than skipping it for the insane 226ilvl eoe pants and shoulders?

You were right, the OS+1 Chest with T7 Helm is better, I corrected that.
Im testing 4p vs http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39733 and http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40287 later today.
T7 Pants/Shoulders are better then EoE Pants/Shoulders. Higher Itemlevel is not always the best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanguiniusQ

http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45691 what about this ring? u just listed that stuff thats available @ptr...pretty sure this is bis, aswell as os+1 robe if u got the hitcap with draenei + sp, but thats just such a minor difference to heigans + t7.5 head.
Nevertheless good work.

As written above I corrected the Helm/Robe.
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40719 is better compared to http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45691.
You gain +5 Haste, 26 MP5 and a tiny amount more Mana vs 0.10% more crit and +1 SP and a little bit useless Stamina.

Just the +5 Haste vs +1 SP are already way better.
The Crit difference is 0.10% when you take Molten Armor with Glyph in account, but this is always the case anyways.
February 14, 2016
Emphar

http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40432 is better than http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39229
Also I'd rather use a 4 set with http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40560
This is also the best wand: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39426
February 14, 2016
Zenjuro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emphar

http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40432 is better than http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39229
Also I'd rather use a 4 set with http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40560
This is also the best wand: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=39426

After testing http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40432 on PTR it is actually better, right now the Stacks build faster then they should be and are in this case easier to hold and buildup when the fight starts then they should.
(Warlocks for example can have 10 Stacks prefight and don't even have to worry about it because their http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=47893 heal tick refreshes the Stack every 5th second no matter if they cast or not.)

Anyways, http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40560 is already worse then http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=40417 so this doesn't work out. I still tested it and its bad as I thought.

Forgot to add a Wand, thanks for pointing it out.
February 16, 2016
purepownage

From what I've noticed, the PTR isn't as well scripted as Lordaeron. As a hunter I noticed a dip in my DPS there (and by dip I mean 1000+ less) despite having roughly 230 GS worth of better gear. Chances are the IotDS is glitched in the same way on Lordaeron, but it's possible it isn't.
February 17, 2016
Zenjuro

Quote:

Originally Posted by purepownage

From what I've noticed, the PTR isn't as well scripted as Lordaeron. As a hunter I noticed a dip in my DPS there (and by dip I mean 1000+ less) despite having roughly 230 GS worth of better gear. Chances are the IotDS is glitched in the same way on Lordaeron, but it's possible it isn't.

Im pretty sure that the PTR is the even newer Core compared to "live" Lordaeron.
Don't forget that professions are not available on PTR and profession are a huge dps increase.
February 18, 2016
purepownage

Honestly that wouldn't surprise me. Last Patchwerk I pulled 7.5k DPS as a Hunter, and all I could think was that it probably wasn't possible to do during retail with Naxx 25 gear. Furthermore, doing around 4-5k dps in 10 mans feels a bit more in line with what people most likely did back in 3.1, but idk.

And for a hunter, professions are not that big of a dps increase. +42 agility and +~80 attack power is well worth it, but far from anything vital.
February 19, 2016
NuperSatural

Got a question. Whats better Black Magic or +63sp?
February 19, 2016
Zenjuro

Quote:

Originally Posted by NuperSatural

Got a question. Whats better Black Magic or +63sp?

Black Magic is approximately 68 haste, so yes it is better then +63 Spellpower BUT the Proc is only 10 seconds that means when you have to move while your proc is up it is worse.

tl;dr mathematically BM is better but +63 SP is better in reality. Use +63 SP.
February 20, 2016
NuperSatural

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenjuro

Black Magic is approximately 68 haste, so yes it is better then +63 Spellpower BUT the Proc is only 10 seconds that means when you have to move while your proc is up it is worse.

tl;dr mathematically BM is better but +63 SP is better in reality. Use +63 SP.

got it, thanks!