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  1. Hey Proterean, can you clarify if you mean...

    Hey Proterean, can you clarify if you mean keeping the population stable where it sits today or dramatically increasing the population on Outland?

    While the most recent changes were good and...
  2. Exactly this. There's no reason a TBC server...

    Exactly this. There's no reason a TBC server can't be tweaked to increase its longevity. The point is, you have to get it right before your player base disappears. Lack of communication and...
  3. Shame this kind of time and energy isn't directed...

    Shame this kind of time and energy isn't directed towards the once successful TBC server. Those 10k players are still out there somewhere, and they aren't likely to be your current WotLK playerbase....
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    Without a doubt, Cysthen deserves big kudos for...

    Without a doubt, Cysthen deserves big kudos for pushing for changes and actively contributing. However, I highly doubt pop will return to this server in a meaningful way unless something very, very...
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    Yep, well said. I often wondered about these as...

    Yep, well said. I often wondered about these as well.
  6. Have to disagree. New server will only split...

    Have to disagree. New server will only split population.

    I also disagree that leveling deters people from pvping on Outland. With 5x rates, you can be 70 in about 20 hours played. That's a pretty...
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    Action is required by the devs. No amount of...

    Action is required by the devs. No amount of advertising/encouraging will cause population to come back in a meaningful manner.

    The pop was healthy at one time and people left. In order to get...
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    Yep, good points ElunarStorm. I agree.

    Yep, good points ElunarStorm. I agree.
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    Agree with everything other than reduced vendor...

    Agree with everything other than reduced vendor prices.
  10. Thanks for the update!

    Thanks for the update!
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    Wunderbauss, if the rep grinds, attunements, etc....

    Wunderbauss, if the rep grinds, attunements, etc. are what make a healthy server, then why are other new TBC servers with 1x rates struggling just like Outland?

    PVP is barely active as well....
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    I agree with Gutripper. Amdus, I don't think...

    I agree with Gutripper.

    Amdus, I don't think anyone denies the good scripting and bug fixes on Outland. I think most people agree that more is needed than bug fixes to bring pop back at this...
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    Melthiore, by that logic Icecrown would have died...

    Melthiore, by that logic Icecrown would have died years ago. The question they are asking is why WOTLK seems to have a longer lifespan than TBC. The question I want to know is whether the devs are...
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    Sad part is, there's no where else (good) to play...

    Sad part is, there's no where else (good) to play TBC. I've got friends that want to play and money to donate, but I can't justify either when there are literally 0 bg pops at NA times. Seems like an...
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    Outland Server Update

    Back in May, I began tracking the daily peak population for the Outland server. The average peak population for May was around 2,500, June was approx 2,500 as well, July was around 1,950, and August...
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    Yea, I started tracking daily peak EU (19:00...

    Yea, I started tracking daily peak EU (19:00 server time) and peak US server time (0:00 server time) population according to the stats on the Information tab over the past 3 months or so.

    The...
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    If the devs are smart, they will implement only a...

    If the devs are smart, they will implement only a small change (i.e. rep or prof x2) for quality of life and let the other TBC servers fail over time and regain the pop. The other TBC servers will...
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    To be clear, do you believe the Warmane staff has...

    To be clear, do you believe the Warmane staff has enough data and the technical capability to make strong assumptions about population loss or not? If not, I concede my point.

    If so, then...
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    My job revolves around using ambiguous data,...

    My job revolves around using ambiguous data, categorizing it, contextualizing it, and driving revenue decisions based on it. From the limited view on my side, I can already tell there is more than...
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    Just because you disagree doesn't make it...

    Just because you disagree doesn't make it invalid. Obviously all your satisfaction in the game revolves around obtaining gear. Sure, everyone likes getting gear but they also like....well....playing...
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    Thanks for the response, Obnoxious! I think a...

    Thanks for the response, Obnoxious!

    I think a data-driven, reasoned response based on analytics would go a long way in settling the debate on population decline. While many narratives have been...
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    Because you may want to buy only a piece or two?...

    Because you may want to buy only a piece or two? Because someone has more money than time and can still contribute to a lively community? Because they may enjoy progressing through content, but...
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    Agreed, which is why the shop needs to be opened...

    Agreed, which is why the shop needs to be opened completely at this point.

    I also agree that new TBC servers are pulling players away, but I think over time the quality of this server will see...
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    Agreed. Biggest problem is imbalance with...

    Agreed. Biggest problem is imbalance with glaives. Also, Obnoxious can you please request an update from devs on their thinking behind not releasing at least some of the S4 gear? Thanks!
  25. I don't believe gold squish fights inflation,...

    I don't believe gold squish fights inflation, since the main source of inflation is botting. Since the squish doesn't prevent botting in the future, prices bounce back rapidly.

    Further, inflation...
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