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Ya'll really need to stop crying about overtuned/undertuned, there is no content right now that isen't killable with basically any raid setup.

He got updated with the release of 2.3 (Zul'Aman patch) so it should be sometime next year (since BT is coming in Dec, and ZA comes after BT)

Don't get hyped again, might change again who know's.

Then the general point of view makes 0 sense, guilds who can't clear T5 will still be in T5 i don't see how this effects them at all.

And like i've said several times Kael has been pretty easily...

So what your saying is basically "I'm not good enough, make the content easier for me cuz i also want loot"?

seems like a good attitude to have in a "progression guild"

The only gear from Hyjal that would effect pvp is like Archimonde gear, the rest really isen't that big of a deal.

Also Kael being "Highly overtuned" and it needing a perfect raid setup, just...

Leo/Moro/Flk have all been pugged but okay, also Solarian could probably be pugged if you can get through the trash cuz she's that easy.

Regarding your "have you ever even played on retail?"
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What about Kael is incorrect?

Also Lurker? dafuq, if you say something along the lines of "The archers do too much damage" I'm out.

Illuminate has 3 kills btw, we've killed him every reset since they fixed him. How is that not farm?

I also fail to see why them adding MH will change anything for the guilds progressing T5. They...

"But i don't wanna fall behind, but i also don't wanna take time out and actually raid"

All of the guilds that've cleared all of t5 are instantly prepared for T6, we're only missing specific BiS pieces due to luck. But in general there's very little that either of the top guilds need...

I mean "too early" SSC/TK was released 2 months too late, and several bosses are already being pug'd.

Also, what about Kael does not work right?

Sure trash drops need to be sorted, but it's not...

It is on farm

Our first kill was last monday (11th) then we came in on thursday after reset and oneshot it.

ez pz

Well, Vashj is 2x vortexes every week, so is KT. And Solarian trash in TK usually drops a decent ammount of Vortexes.

But yeah SSC is pretty low, but we've gotten more then enough vortexes since...