1. December 15, 2012

    [Guide] Shadow Priest PvE 4.3.4

    Shadow priest 4.3.4 PvE


    Guide re-work in progress, there might be some glitches.
    Can it be stickied or something? Also I'd like to change name of topic to "[Guide]Shadow priest 4.3.4 PvE" since it's new patch and it's updated.

    1. Introduction
    2. Talents
    3. Enchants
    4. Gems
    5. Stats
    6. Professions
    7. Gear
    8. Single target rotation
    9. Multi target rotation
    10. Advices and raid preparation
    11. Addons
    12. Power Auras
    13. Ending


    1. Introduction

    Hi, my name is Whizz, I play on Molten-Wow since 2010. You can catch me in game on Frostwolf . My characters are Whizzu, Whz and Whizzyo. Feel free to ask any questions. This guide is not entirely my own work, I copied some stuff from other guides. Many aspects of this guide apply only to Molten. Why? Because we dont have Nefarian and heroic BoT for example and gear list is kind off different than official servers. This is basically short guide, without explanation of some stuff. If you guys like it, I can add explanation of all talents and skills.

    2. Talents



    3. Enchants

    Head: Arcanum of Hyjal
    Shoulders: Greater Inscription of Charged Lodestone
    Back: Enchant Cloak - Greater Intellect
    Chest: Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
    Bracer: Formula: Enchant Bracer - Mighty Intellect
    Hands: Enchant Gloves - Haste / Enchant Gloves - Greater Mastery
    Legs: Powerful Ghostly Spellthread
    Boots: Enchant Boots - Haste
    Main-Hand: Enchant Weapon - Power Torrent
    Off-hand: Enchant Off-Hand - Superior Intellect

    If you have problems hitting 17% hit, you can switch bracers enchant to +50 spirit, or chest enchant to +40 spirit. I wouldnt recommend that though.

    4. Gems

    Red: Brilliant Inferno Ruby
    Blue: Purified Demonseye
    Yellow: Reckless Ember Topaz
    Meta: Burning Shadowspirit Diamond

    Switch to epic gems when they come.

    5. Stats

    Intellect > 17% hit cap (obtained through spirit!, NOT trough hit cause of the talent Twisted Faith) > haste > mastery > crit > hit over 17% (useless)

    Hit Cap = 1742 hit/spirit (1639 for Draenei) for the 17% hit cap
    1% Hit = 102.446 rating
    1% Crit = 179.28 rating
    1% Haste = 128.05701 rating
    1 Mastery = 179.28 rating
    Honestly, spirit and haste are only ones worth stacking till 31,5% haste, then mastery is better than haste. Of course, you need to be hit capped. Then you can reforge all crit and mastery to haste. However, if you are no hit capped, reforge items to get to hit cap. One missed dot is a lot of lost dps.

    6. Professions

    Alchemy: +80 Int (Mixology for Flask of Draconic Mind)
    + trinket 359ilvl (mediocre, starter trinket to get better iLvl :cool:)
    Enchanting: +80 Int (+ 2x 40int on rings)
    Blacksmith: +80 Int (+ 2x sockets means 2x+40int)
    Jewelcrafting: +81 Int (3x better JC gem)
    Leatherworking: +80 Int (Embossment)
    Inscription: +80 Int (shoulder enchant)
    Tailoring: +80Int Average (cloak enchant, it procs well and it gives our dots a boost)
    Engineering: +80 Int Average (Synapse Springs)+head 359ilvl
    It really doesnt matter that much which ones you take. Personally I use Tailoring and Enchanting, but I guess the best combo is Tailoring+Engineering. Thats only an opinion, discuss. :)

    7. Gear

    Easiest part. :) Since we don't have all bosses in FL/BoT HC/BWD HC released, the list is kind of weird. :) As I stated before, gear guide applies to Molten conditions only. Items listed as first are probably the best. When I am writing this guide, only Beth'tilac is released in FL, but to save me some updating work, I'll assume that Shannox/Alysrazor/Ryolith are also there.

    Head:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71011 - random enchantment, I assume haste+spirit version or similiar
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=67147 BoE, check Auction House
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=65020 Magmaw HC in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59449 crafted with Engineering (you must have the profession)
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59452 Magmaw In BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59219 ODS drop in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56460 first boss in BRC HC

    Neck:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71214 - 1250 JP
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71213 - 1250 JP, don't buy it, what for?
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59512 Valiona&Theralion in BoT
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=67130 similiar to above, BoE, check Auction House
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62416 Dragonmaw Clan reputation

    Shoulders:
    there won't be any update soon :(
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=60253 ChoGall drop, t11
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59325 Atramedes in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56399 Siamat in Lost City of TolVir HC
    well if you really want to have moar iLlvl, take Vicious instead of Siamat ones.

    Back:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70990 - Alysrazor in FL
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71229 - Avengers of Hyjal, friendly; not obtainable yet
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71230 - Avengers of Hyjal, friendly; not obtainable yet
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67131 - world drop
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72322 - Ruthless cloak, 1650 CP
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59516 - VT in BoT

    Chest:
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=71279 - t12, 2200 JP
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71041 - Beth'tilac, honestly better take t12 piece
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=60254 2200 JP, t11
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72403 - Ruthless part, 2200 CP
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59468 BoE, check AH
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=67133 BoE, check AH
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56417 Ammunae, boss in HOO HC

    Wrist:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71266 - 1250 JP, buy it, love it
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59475 Halfus in BoT,
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59322 Atramedes in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=60635 - go pew pew on Arenas :D

    Hands:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69944 - tailoring, FL recipe, probably will be obtainable soon
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71276 - t12, 1650 JP
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=65234 Magmaw HC token
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=65065 Chimaeron HC
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=67132 BoE, check Auction House (actually please dont buy it, you will obtain better really fast :))
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59313 - Chimaeron normal version
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=60257 - t11, BH10/25 drop or 1650vp
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59498 ChoGall w BoT
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62364 The Earthen Ring reputation

    Waist:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71258 - Avengers of Hyjal, honored; probably will be obtainable soon
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72883 - Avengers of Hyjal, honored; probably will be obtainable soon
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=54504 tailoring craft
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59349 Maloriak in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56305 Beauty in BRC HC

    Legs:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71278 - 2200 JP, t12
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70989 - Alysrazor in FL
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72407 - Ruthless Satin legs
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=60255 2200 JP or
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=54505 tailoring craft
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59351 Maloriak BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=58160 2200 JP

    Feet:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69953 - tailoring, recipe from FL trash drop
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71023 - Shannox in FL
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=65069 Chimaeron HC
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59234 same, normal version
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62450 Ramkahen reputation

    Ring:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71217 - Avengers of Hyjal exalted
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71211 - 1250 JP
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71024 - Shannox in FL
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=58188 1650 JP
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=64904 archeology
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59501 ChoGall in BoT
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=58189 1650 VP (better spend VP on something else)
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56333 Slabhide in SC HC
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62415 Dragonmaw Clan reputation

    Trinkets:
    [url]
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62047 check AH, BoE
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59519 VT in BoT
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70142 - not obtainable yet
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56320 last boss BRC HC
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=68710 Tol Barad commendations
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56407 first boss HC HOO
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59326 Atramedes BWD

    Main hand:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71359 - FL trash drop
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70223 - Ruthless weapon
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=65041 Magmaw HC in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59341 Magmaw in BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=63536 VT In BoT
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=61338 PvP Vicious
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=57872 Setesh in HOO HC

    Off-hand:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71022 - Shannox in FL
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70112 - not obtainable yet
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59484 Halfus in BoT
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=67149 Bind on Equip, check AH
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59513 Council in BoT, looks cool
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=57923 950 JP
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=62234 Inscription craft

    Two-Hand:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71039 - Beth'tilac in FL
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71775 - FL rare boss drop
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71360 - FL trash drop
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=64489 archeology
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59525 BoT trash drop, BoE
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56271 ToT HC, second boss

    Wand:
    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71150 - buy it, use it, 1250 JP
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=65064 Chimaeron HC, Best In Slot
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59460 trash drop BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=59314 Chimaeron normal BWD
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=56296 Corla in BRC HC


    8. Single target rotation
    Heres the one I use, it works great. I know that some people will argue with opener and using Dark Archangel. Feel free to discuss below.

    Opener:
    Pre-potion (Volcanic Potion BEFORE combat) -> Vampiric Touch > Shadow Word: Pain > Devouring Plague > Mind Blast > Shadowfiend > Mind Flay x2

    Here you will have 5 stacks of Dark Evangelism, so use Dark Archangel.
    Since this moment, there is no rotation anymore, but priority list.
    Dark Archangel > Mind blast > Vampiric Touch > Shadowfiend > SW:P > Devouring Plague > Mind Flay

    When boss goes down below 25% of HP, priorities change.

    Dark Archangel > Mind Blast > Vampiric Touch > Shadow Word: Death > SW:P > Devouring Plague > Shadowfiend > Mind Flay
    It looks kinda raw, so quick explanation. Dots have pretty much always the priority above direct spells like Mind Blast. You dont want them to come off even for 1sec, but you can wait with Mind Blast for 1 more sec (but its bad when you do this). Otherwise, when you are Mind Flaying, use Mind Blast on CD, dont wait for Mind Flay to end.

    Vampiric Touch start re-casting when its about to come off, in last second of existing dot.
    Shadow Word: Pain refreshed through Mind Flay (Pain and Suffering talent)
    Devouring Plague best you can perform is to refresh it exactly in the moment of last tick (after it).


    9. Multi Target Rotation

    Pick one of trash, dot him up (VT+SWP+DP), cast Mind Blast on cooldown.
    However, if there is like 5+ trash, dot one, cast Mind Blast on cooldown and use Mind Sear into crowd.

    10. Preparing to raids

    Stuff to take with you:
    Flask of the Draconic Mind, 300+int x3, because why not?
    Elixir of the Might Speed +haste, cheap stuff x20 (it does replace Flask!)
    any 90+int food x20
    Noggenfogger Elixir x20 to look cool
    Volcanic potion (!!!) x40
    Scroll of Intellect IX x40

    Some tips and general thoughts, Ill add more when they come to my mind.

    Mana problems? Use Shadow Word: Death from time to time
    Shadowfiend is best used as offensive cooldown, not as mana return cooldown
    Dark Intent buff from warlocks is your friend, ask for it!
    Save dispersion as defensive cooldown, when you are about to die. Also, using it is huge dps loss.
    If you need to stop DPS on boss, use Mind Spike, so the dots come off.
    Wanna top DPS on Halfus? Keep up VT and SWP and spam Devouring Plague in last phase  100k+ guaranteed
    Can priests top DPS charts on this patch? Don't know yet, probably not.

    11. Addons

    Must-have:
    Recount
    Deadly Boss Mods
    OmniCC
    Quartz
    Power Auras (Best addon :D)
    Omen threat meter

    Optional:
    Atlas Loot
    DrDamage

    12. Power Auras

    If you have the addon, you can import them directly. Just type /powa in game chat, click Import and paste text.

    Dark Evangelism 5 stacks:
    Code:
    Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Holy_DivineIllumination; buffname:Dark Evangelism; stacks:5; texture:179; exact:true

    Below 25% HP:
    Code:
    Version:4.16; b:0.8667; anim1:2; g:0.2902; target:true; icon:inv_alchemy_elixir_05; bufftype:8; texture:23; threshold:25; combat:true; torsion:0.85

    Theralion's Mirror proc:
    Code:
    Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Arcane_Blink; buffname:Revelation; x:-586; owntex:true; isResting:0; size:0.15; y:392; texmode:2; timer.a:0.9; timer.h:1.38; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:391; timer.x:-549; timer.Transparent:true
    Darkmoon Card: Volcano proc:
    Code:
    Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Lightning_LightningBolt01; buffname:Volcanic Destruction; x:-586; owntex:true; exact:true; size:0.14; y:350; timer.a:0.75; timer.h:1.31; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:351; timer.x:-549

    Cloak enchant proc (tailoring):
    Code:
    Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Arcane_PrismaticCloak; buffname:Lightweave; x:-586; owntex:true; exact:true; size:0.15; y:303; timer.a:0.9; timer.h:1.31; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:304; timer.x:-549

    Power Torrent:
    Code:
    Version:4.16; icon:Ability_Paladin_SacredCleansing; buffname:Power Torrent; x:-586; owntex:true; size:0.15; y:258; timer.a:0.9; timer.h:1.31; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:260; timer.x:-549
    13. Ending

    This guide will get improved and continued. Feel free to discuss everything in this thread. I will be happy to answer your questions. Also, I will try to remember to screenshot some DPS records. Thank you for reading. :)

    Sincerely, Whizzu

  2. December 15, 2012
    not bad at all. I'm pretty sure though that brackfish gloves > t11 gloves. 4piece set bonus isn't all that good

  3. December 15, 2012
    I dont think i got the "NO HIT cuze of twisted faith" talent.

    Should we reforge to spirit or get healer gear? Im confused

  4. December 15, 2012
    I dont think i got the "NO HIT cuze of twisted faith" talent.

    Should we reforge to spirit or get healer gear? Im confused
    My point was to explain, that priests receive hit rating from spirit. Therefore we shouldn't refoge for example crit->hit, but crit->spirit and so on. ;) To simplicify more, do not get hit rating, get spirit only.

    Also, healer gear works fine for shadow, but you need to try to obtain spirit+haste ones instead of spirit+mastery items.

  5. December 15, 2012
    Well healer gear is mostly with haste, and thats amazing for holy, therefor making it easy to have shadow spec


    The only problem is if you want to be discipline (mastery spec), you need a separate gear for shadow then.

    But thanks for clearing it

  6. December 15, 2012
    If Timewarp/Bloodlust/Heroism is used, you need to refresh dots, it will boost your DPS.
    nop it's not how buffs work on dots on molten. your dots get the haste buff instantly (no recast). recasting too early because of this is actually a dps loss.

  7. December 16, 2012
    hpgobbster, can u pls tell how u tested this, im interested in this. thx
    i cant test it in combat because too much variables.

  8. December 16, 2012
    hpgobbster, can u pls tell how u tested this, im interested in this. thx
    i cant test it in combat because too much variables.
    tested on target dummy. use one dot, ask for a bloodlust, look at the dot's tick speed in the debuff icon.
    you'll notice that without recasting, the dot starts ticking faster when you get bloodlust. if you have troubles with too many variables, simply remove any extra buffs or gear that interferes with your results. for testing game mechanics you don't need max dps anyway.

    on molten all of your dots are affected instantly by buffs on you. take a spellpower/int proc trinket for example. your dots will start ticking bigger instantly. EDIT: I tested feral druid bleeds and they seem to work differently (need recast)

    the only exception I can think of right now is Theralion's Mirror because it buffs your shadow orb/empowered shadow mechanism which is actually a buff on yourself. so with this trinket you have to recast your mind blast when the buff procs, but in return you can extend the buff if you cast MB just before the mastery buff falls off.

    TL;DR go to a target dummy and start reading tooltips

  9. December 16, 2012
    Thank you for your effort. I didn't have a chance to test it myself today, though i'll problably try. I'll take your word that it works like you said. ;)

    This could be considered as a major bug. Many people would love to see it bugged anyway, cause it simplifies our rotation so much.

    Also, what pair of trinkets are you using Hpgobbster?

  10. December 16, 2012
    Thank you for your effort. I didn't have a chance to test it myself today, though i'll problably try. I'll take your word that it works like you said. ;)

    This could be considered as a major bug. Many people would love to see it bugged anyway, cause it simplifies our rotation so much.

    Also, what pair of trinkets are you using Hpgobbster?
    DMC: Volcano + Theralion's Mirror

  11. December 16, 2012
    This could be considered as a major bug. Many people would love to see it bugged anyway, cause it simplifies our rotation so much.
    Yea, it simplifies the rotation but its realy a dps los for those who know what to do.

  12. December 16, 2012
    Yea, it simplifies the rotation but its realy a dps los for those who know what to do.
    I agree. Same thing is about feral druids' bleeds. They are calculated dynamically.

    About trinkets, i use the same pair.

  13. December 16, 2012
    Is there any bug report about this, or any1 can make one?
    (about dots being calculated dinamycaly and not on per cast basis)

    Alot of classes have some positive bugs, they make more dps than it should and sprist are nerfed because of bad bugs

  14. December 16, 2012
    Btw if you reforge hit rating to spirit you will get a bit more hit chance.

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