How to Deathbringer Saurfang as pug

[Mercy]

4x of t10 how shoul i even get one t10 gear if i don't raid icc? lol

Weekly quest, daily heroics and weekly VoA.
Not saying I agree with this, but still, you can get a fair amount without touching ICC.

[ToasterLoveBuns]

Weekly quest, daily heroics and weekly VoA.
Not saying I agree with this, but still, you can get a fair amount without touching ICC.

Yea, its pretty doable but pretty taxing to people with jobs. Youre far better off going with guilds.

[fanf3]

Weekly quest, daily heroics and weekly VoA.
Not saying I agree with this, but still, you can get a fair amount without touching ICC.

Well yeah, 14 weeks assuming that you play every single day. A bit less if you're lucky in VoA. It's entirely possible to get nice gear just from EoFs and ICC 5 mans.
But still if I wanted to raid I'd rather join a guild, no matter how bad and "casual", it's still better than PuGs. ICC 25 with a guild takes like what? 1.5-2 hours? That's how long it takes a PuG to even pull Marro, lol. And then people are leaving, lagging, disconnecting, wiping, arguing... it's a nightmare.

[Mercy]

Yea, its pretty doable but pretty taxing to people with jobs. Youre far better off going with guilds.

What I mentioned is actually more casual and time friendly than actively raiding.

Well yeah, 14 weeks assuming that you play every single day. A bit less if you're lucky in VoA. It's entirely possible to get nice gear just from EoFs and ICC 5 mans.
But still if I wanted to raid I'd rather join a guild, no matter how bad and "casual", it's still better than PuGs. ICC 25 with a guild takes like what? 1.5-2 hours? That's how long it takes a PuG to even pull Marro, lol. And then people are leaving, lagging, disconnecting, wiping, arguing... it's a nightmare.

I do agree. Finding a guild is definitely a better way to get started than trying to deal with PUGs. Even downing the first few bosses in ICC 10N drastically increases the rate at which you get the emblems.