Socialism is pretty cool I think. All systems have their strengths and weaknesses. None are perfect.
Communism would be perfect, but people by nature are lazy. "I can get the same amount as everyone else and not work? Awesome". Communism relies on everyone contributing. You can argue that not working would get old pretty quickly, and those people would quickly find a purpose for their life, but with the ability to take drugs to dull that lack of self-accomplishment, and find other escapes such as video games, and even more with tech going the way it is, VR etc...they'll find ways to avoid contributing. So communism won't work.
Capitalism is kinda cool, but it gets out of hand very quickly. Wealth inequality is a big weakness here, because people by nature are also greedy. They make more and more and are unable to rationalize why others are unable to do the same, in reality they're ****ing over the scale and can't see that. They're good with money, but they don't truly understand it. Past a certain point, why should you make more? What are the real life consequences to it? Who does this affect and how?
Capitalism requires peroidic wealth redistribution....the incoming gold squish on our servers is a great example of this.
Socialism has the potential to be great, but large government makes people nervous. It's very easy to become corrupt, and smaller government is a way of safeguarding against this. Unless you can trust everyone else explicitly to regulate in the best interests of the people...well it's gonna be hard to get approval for. Such economic strategies are also easy for dictatorships to flourish in, because people feel like they personally have less of an impact. But I'll avoid bringing political systems into economic ones.
In my opinion, the economic system should be adapted based on current conditions. Resources and their amounts, breakthroughs in tech, etc all dictate changes to the economic system for it to remain effective. However no government is well run enough to adapt their system to such a huge degree, on a regular basis. Which is why almost everything fails eventually.
Sorry if I went off topic, just my thoughts.
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What about this:
I have much more responsibilites in my job, I double the hours that you do per week and I get payed the same. Does that make sense to you? Hell, it sure doesn't make sense for me.
Communism is an utopia and nothing else.
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People are ungrateful nowadays.
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MFW similarities <= => same
As far as I know, men tend to be "left" or "right" depending on which hand they use most often to choke the chicken. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Uhhh, that was an odd comment.
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I was/am feeling odd at the moment. Does that make me right or left?
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Why not both ? :)
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I agree. It's actually a good idea to keep both hands. Though I hear in some middle-eastern countries, you can still get a hand cut off when you steal something. I wonder if those areas are left or right, and which hand would they normally cut off first, and does that have any relation with whether they are left or right?
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Their main hand is the hand that they lose. Therefore if they're a left handed person, they lose their left hand and vice-versa.
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I see. So is that region left or right wing?
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Both, considering that I use both hands for multiple functions. I guess that it would be a thing of the moment.
Edited: December 22, 2016
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Fighting isnt only done in wars, its done through all your life.
For example one day after working for 30 years every day (especially back then with the world wars and bad education in most of the world) you get to build your house and move your family in it for generations to come. Would you like that house falling into hands of someone who invaded you? Your family belongings spread around the pillagers as loot, your family members murdered or worse in the very place you all felt safe in?
Or for a more realistic view of it based on current status of white countries, you pay taxes.
That is a well designed system as long as it applies only to the well-being of the ones that contribute to it.
But now it is beyond that, now it focuses on the well-being of the ones that don't contribute in any way to the country you live in.
So now you will pay 0.8e for the bread*that feeds your family instead of 0.5e, because the 0.3e has to go to an immigrant that doesn't want to find work and has to live in a shelter designed for them to have free meals and activities and education if needed.
Basically you work for them to have a nice life, instead of investing fully into your own interests.
Patriotism is healthy, of course not the extreme variations of it, just normal 'don't touch me and I won't touch you' way of thinking.
*applied to everything bread is just an example of how that works
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You mean like what was done to colonize and create USA?
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The whole Americas suffered that fate actually.
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That's curable. You just need to understand why communism isn't economically viable.
I considered myself a communist in the past too :(. It happens.
Have you ever heard about libertarianism?
Shame if the right wing in your country is represented mostly by xenophobics. I don't agree with many of their ideals but hey, they're much less destructible to society than the left wing.
I think the best system is the one each individual chooses what they want to do with their lives, without any group or government deciding for him what he needs to do. If the only existing laws are the natural human rights of freedom and property, I see no weakness.
I don't think wealth inequality is a problem. If one produces more for society, he deserves a reward. Of course, with corrupt governments here and there, in many countries you don't actually have to be useful at all to society to be rich. Though, capitalism itself isn't the problem here, but governments.
Just an opinion outside the right-left wings box.
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