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Shadow priest 4.3.4 PvE


Guide re-work in progress, there might be some glitches.
Can it be stickied or something? Also I'd like to change name of topic to "[Guide]Shadow priest 4.3.4 PvE" since it's new patch and it's updated.

1. Introduction
2. Talents
3. Enchants
4. Gems
5. Stats
6. Professions
7. Gear
8. Single target rotation
9. Multi target rotation
10. Advices and raid preparation
11. Addons
12. Power Auras
13. Ending


1. Introduction

Hi, my name is Whizz, I play on Molten-Wow since 2010. You can catch me in game on Frostwolf . My characters are Whizzu, Whz and Whizzyo. Feel free to ask any questions. This guide is not entirely my own work, I copied some stuff from other guides. Many aspects of this guide apply only to Molten. Why? Because we dont have Nefarian and heroic BoT for example and gear list is kind off different than official servers. This is basically short guide, without explanation of some stuff. If you guys like it, I can add explanation of all talents and skills.

2. Talents



3. Enchants

Head: Arcanum of Hyjal
Shoulders: Greater Inscription of Charged Lodestone
Back: Enchant Cloak - Greater Intellect
Chest: Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats
Bracer: Formula: Enchant Bracer - Mighty Intellect
Hands: Enchant Gloves - Haste / Enchant Gloves - Greater Mastery
Legs: Powerful Ghostly Spellthread
Boots: Enchant Boots - Haste
Main-Hand: Enchant Weapon - Power Torrent
Off-hand: Enchant Off-Hand - Superior Intellect

If you have problems hitting 17% hit, you can switch bracers enchant to +50 spirit, or chest enchant to +40 spirit. I wouldnt recommend that though.

4. Gems

Red: Brilliant Inferno Ruby
Blue: Purified Demonseye
Yellow: Reckless Ember Topaz
Meta: Burning Shadowspirit Diamond

Switch to epic gems when they come.

5. Stats

Intellect > 17% hit cap (obtained through spirit!, NOT trough hit cause of the talent Twisted Faith) > haste > mastery > crit > hit over 17% (useless)

Hit Cap = 1742 hit/spirit (1639 for Draenei) for the 17% hit cap
1% Hit = 102.446 rating
1% Crit = 179.28 rating
1% Haste = 128.05701 rating
1 Mastery = 179.28 rating
Honestly, spirit and haste are only ones worth stacking till 31,5% haste, then mastery is better than haste. Of course, you need to be hit capped. Then you can reforge all crit and mastery to haste. However, if you are no hit capped, reforge items to get to hit cap. One missed dot is a lot of lost dps.

6. Professions

Alchemy: +80 Int (Mixology for Flask of Draconic Mind)
+ trinket 359ilvl (mediocre, starter trinket to get better iLvl )
Enchanting: +80 Int (+ 2x 40int on rings)
Blacksmith: +80 Int (+ 2x sockets means 2x+40int)
Jewelcrafting: +81 Int (3x better JC gem)
Leatherworking: +80 Int (Embossment)
Inscription: +80 Int (shoulder enchant)
Tailoring: +80Int Average (cloak enchant, it procs well and it gives our dots a boost)
Engineering: +80 Int Average (Synapse Springs)+head 359ilvl
It really doesnt matter that much which ones you take. Personally I use Tailoring and Enchanting, but I guess the best combo is Tailoring+Engineering. Thats only an opinion, discuss.

7. Gear

Easiest part. Since we don't have all bosses in FL/BoT HC/BWD HC released, the list is kind of weird. As I stated before, gear guide applies to Molten conditions only. Items listed as first are probably the best. When I am writing this guide, only Beth'tilac is released in FL, but to save me some updating work, I'll assume that Shannox/Alysrazor/Ryolith are also there.

Head:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71011 - random enchantment, I assume haste+spirit version or similiar
http://www.wowhead.com/item=67147 BoE, check Auction House
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65020 Magmaw HC in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59449 crafted with Engineering (you must have the profession)
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59452 Magmaw In BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59219 ODS drop in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56460 first boss in BRC HC

Neck:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71214 - 1250 JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71213 - 1250 JP, don't buy it, what for?
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59512 Valiona&Theralion in BoT
http://www.wowhead.com/item=67130 similiar to above, BoE, check Auction House
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62416 Dragonmaw Clan reputation

Shoulders:
there won't be any update soon
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60253 ChoGall drop, t11
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59325 Atramedes in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56399 Siamat in Lost City of TolVir HC
well if you really want to have moar iLlvl, take Vicious instead of Siamat ones.

Back:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70990 - Alysrazor in FL
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71229 - Avengers of Hyjal, friendly; not obtainable yet
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71230 - Avengers of Hyjal, friendly; not obtainable yet
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/67131 - world drop
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72322 - Ruthless cloak, 1650 CP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59516 - VT in BoT

Chest:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=71279 - t12, 2200 JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71041 - Beth'tilac, honestly better take t12 piece
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60254 2200 JP, t11
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72403 - Ruthless part, 2200 CP
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59468 BoE, check AH
http://www.wowhead.com/item=67133 BoE, check AH
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56417 Ammunae, boss in HOO HC

Wrist:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71266 - 1250 JP, buy it, love it
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59475 Halfus in BoT,
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59322 Atramedes in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60635 - go pew pew on Arenas

Hands:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69944 - tailoring, FL recipe, probably will be obtainable soon
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71276 - t12, 1650 JP
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65234 Magmaw HC token
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65065 Chimaeron HC
http://www.wowhead.com/item=67132 BoE, check Auction House (actually please dont buy it, you will obtain better really fast )
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59313 - Chimaeron normal version
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60257 - t11, BH10/25 drop or 1650vp
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59498 ChoGall w BoT
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62364 The Earthen Ring reputation

Waist:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71258 - Avengers of Hyjal, honored; probably will be obtainable soon
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72883 - Avengers of Hyjal, honored; probably will be obtainable soon
http://www.wowhead.com/item=54504 tailoring craft
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59349 Maloriak in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56305 Beauty in BRC HC

Legs:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71278 - 2200 JP, t12
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70989 - Alysrazor in FL
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/72407 - Ruthless Satin legs
http://www.wowhead.com/item=60255 2200 JP or
http://www.wowhead.com/item=54505 tailoring craft
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59351 Maloriak BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58160 2200 JP

Feet:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69953 - tailoring, recipe from FL trash drop
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71023 - Shannox in FL
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65069 Chimaeron HC
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59234 same, normal version
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62450 Ramkahen reputation

Ring:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71217 - Avengers of Hyjal exalted
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71211 - 1250 JP
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71024 - Shannox in FL
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58188 1650 JP
http://www.wowhead.com/item=64904 archeology
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59501 ChoGall in BoT
http://www.wowhead.com/item=58189 1650 VP (better spend VP on something else)
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56333 Slabhide in SC HC
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62415 Dragonmaw Clan reputation

Trinkets:
[url]
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62047 check AH, BoE
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59519 VT in BoT
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70142 - not obtainable yet
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56320 last boss BRC HC
http://www.wowhead.com/item=68710 Tol Barad commendations
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56407 first boss HC HOO
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59326 Atramedes BWD

Main hand:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71359 - FL trash drop
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70223 - Ruthless weapon
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65041 Magmaw HC in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59341 Magmaw in BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=63536 VT In BoT
http://www.wowhead.com/item=61338 PvP Vicious
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57872 Setesh in HOO HC

Off-hand:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71022 - Shannox in FL
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70112 - not obtainable yet
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59484 Halfus in BoT
http://www.wowhead.com/item=67149 Bind on Equip, check AH
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59513 Council in BoT, looks cool
http://www.wowhead.com/item=57923 950 JP
http://www.wowhead.com/item=62234 Inscription craft

Two-Hand:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71039 - Beth'tilac in FL
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71775 - FL rare boss drop
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71360 - FL trash drop
http://www.wowhead.com/item=64489 archeology
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59525 BoT trash drop, BoE
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56271 ToT HC, second boss

Wand:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71150 - buy it, use it, 1250 JP
http://www.wowhead.com/item=65064 Chimaeron HC, Best In Slot
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59460 trash drop BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=59314 Chimaeron normal BWD
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56296 Corla in BRC HC


8. Single target rotation
Heres the one I use, it works great. I know that some people will argue with opener and using Dark Archangel. Feel free to discuss below.

Opener:
Pre-potion (Volcanic Potion BEFORE combat) -> Vampiric Touch > Shadow Word: Pain > Devouring Plague > Mind Blast > Shadowfiend > Mind Flay x2

Here you will have 5 stacks of Dark Evangelism, so use Dark Archangel.
Since this moment, there is no rotation anymore, but priority list.
Dark Archangel > Mind blast > Vampiric Touch > Shadowfiend > SW > Devouring Plague > Mind Flay

When boss goes down below 25% of HP, priorities change.

Dark Archangel > Mind Blast > Vampiric Touch > Shadow Word: Death > SW > Devouring Plague > Shadowfiend > Mind Flay
It looks kinda raw, so quick explanation. Dots have pretty much always the priority above direct spells like Mind Blast. You dont want them to come off even for 1sec, but you can wait with Mind Blast for 1 more sec (but its bad when you do this). Otherwise, when you are Mind Flaying, use Mind Blast on CD, dont wait for Mind Flay to end.

Vampiric Touch start re-casting when its about to come off, in last second of existing dot.
Shadow Word: Pain refreshed through Mind Flay (Pain and Suffering talent)
Devouring Plague best you can perform is to refresh it exactly in the moment of last tick (after it).


9. Multi Target Rotation

Pick one of trash, dot him up (VT+SWP+DP), cast Mind Blast on cooldown.
However, if there is like 5+ trash, dot one, cast Mind Blast on cooldown and use Mind Sear into crowd.

10. Preparing to raids

Stuff to take with you:
Flask of the Draconic Mind, 300+int x3, because why not?
Elixir of the Might Speed +haste, cheap stuff x20 (it does replace Flask!)
any 90+int food x20
Noggenfogger Elixir x20 to look cool
Volcanic potion (!!!) x40
Scroll of Intellect IX x40

Some tips and general thoughts, Ill add more when they come to my mind.

Mana problems? Use Shadow Word: Death from time to time
Shadowfiend is best used as offensive cooldown, not as mana return cooldown
Dark Intent buff from warlocks is your friend, ask for it!
Save dispersion as defensive cooldown, when you are about to die. Also, using it is huge dps loss.
If you need to stop DPS on boss, use Mind Spike, so the dots come off.
Wanna top DPS on Halfus? Keep up VT and SWP and spam Devouring Plague in last phase  100k+ guaranteed
Can priests top DPS charts on this patch? Don't know yet, probably not.

11. Addons

Must-have:
Recount
Deadly Boss Mods
OmniCC
Quartz
Power Auras (Best addon )
Omen threat meter

Optional:
Atlas Loot
DrDamage

12. Power Auras

If you have the addon, you can import them directly. Just type /powa in game chat, click Import and paste text.

Dark Evangelism 5 stacks:
Code:
Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Holy_DivineIllumination; buffname:Dark Evangelism; stacks:5; texture:179; exact:true

Below 25% HP:
Code:
Version:4.16; b:0.8667; anim1:2; g:0.2902; target:true; icon:inv_alchemy_elixir_05; bufftype:8; texture:23; threshold:25; combat:true; torsion:0.85

Theralion's Mirror proc:
Code:
Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Arcane_Blink; buffname:Revelation; x:-586; owntex:true; isResting:0; size:0.15; y:392; texmode:2; timer.a:0.9; timer.h:1.38; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:391; timer.x:-549; timer.Transparent:true
Darkmoon Card: Volcano proc:
Code:
Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Lightning_LightningBolt01; buffname:Volcanic Destruction; x:-586; owntex:true; exact:true; size:0.14; y:350; timer.a:0.75; timer.h:1.31; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:351; timer.x:-549

Cloak enchant proc (tailoring):
Code:
Version:4.16; icon:Spell_Arcane_PrismaticCloak; buffname:Lightweave; x:-586; owntex:true; exact:true; size:0.15; y:303; timer.a:0.9; timer.h:1.31; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:304; timer.x:-549

Power Torrent:
Code:
Version:4.16; icon:Ability_Paladin_SacredCleansing; buffname:Power Torrent; x:-586; owntex:true; size:0.15; y:258; timer.a:0.9; timer.h:1.31; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:260; timer.x:-549
13. Ending

This guide will get improved and continued. Feel free to discuss everything in this thread. I will be happy to answer your questions. Also, I will try to remember to screenshot some DPS records. Thank you for reading.

Sincerely, Whizzu

Edited: May 29, 2013 Reason: corrections
 
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not bad at all. I'm pretty sure though that brackfish gloves > t11 gloves. 4piece set bonus isn't all that good
 
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I dont think i got the "NO HIT cuze of twisted faith" talent.

Should we reforge to spirit or get healer gear? Im confused
 
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I dont think i got the "NO HIT cuze of twisted faith" talent.

Should we reforge to spirit or get healer gear? Im confused
My point was to explain, that priests receive hit rating from spirit. Therefore we shouldn't refoge for example crit->hit, but crit->spirit and so on. To simplicify more, do not get hit rating, get spirit only.

Also, healer gear works fine for shadow, but you need to try to obtain spirit+haste ones instead of spirit+mastery items.

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Well healer gear is mostly with haste, and thats amazing for holy, therefor making it easy to have shadow spec


The only problem is if you want to be discipline (mastery spec), you need a separate gear for shadow then.

But thanks for clearing it
 
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If Timewarp/Bloodlust/Heroism is used, you need to refresh dots, it will boost your DPS.
nop it's not how buffs work on dots on molten. your dots get the haste buff instantly (no recast). recasting too early because of this is actually a dps loss.
 
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hpgobbster, can u pls tell how u tested this, im interested in this. thx
i cant test it in combat because too much variables.
 
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hpgobbster, can u pls tell how u tested this, im interested in this. thx
i cant test it in combat because too much variables.
tested on target dummy. use one dot, ask for a bloodlust, look at the dot's tick speed in the debuff icon.
you'll notice that without recasting, the dot starts ticking faster when you get bloodlust. if you have troubles with too many variables, simply remove any extra buffs or gear that interferes with your results. for testing game mechanics you don't need max dps anyway.

on molten all of your dots are affected instantly by buffs on you. take a spellpower/int proc trinket for example. your dots will start ticking bigger instantly. EDIT: I tested feral druid bleeds and they seem to work differently (need recast)

the only exception I can think of right now is Theralion's Mirror because it buffs your shadow orb/empowered shadow mechanism which is actually a buff on yourself. so with this trinket you have to recast your mind blast when the buff procs, but in return you can extend the buff if you cast MB just before the mastery buff falls off.

TL;DR go to a target dummy and start reading tooltips

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Thank you for your effort. I didn't have a chance to test it myself today, though i'll problably try. I'll take your word that it works like you said.

This could be considered as a major bug. Many people would love to see it bugged anyway, cause it simplifies our rotation so much.

Also, what pair of trinkets are you using Hpgobbster?
 
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Thank you for your effort. I didn't have a chance to test it myself today, though i'll problably try. I'll take your word that it works like you said.

This could be considered as a major bug. Many people would love to see it bugged anyway, cause it simplifies our rotation so much.

Also, what pair of trinkets are you using Hpgobbster?
DMC: Volcano + Theralion's Mirror
 
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This could be considered as a major bug. Many people would love to see it bugged anyway, cause it simplifies our rotation so much.
Yea, it simplifies the rotation but its realy a dps los for those who know what to do.
 
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Yea, it simplifies the rotation but its realy a dps los for those who know what to do.
I agree. Same thing is about feral druids' bleeds. They are calculated dynamically.

About trinkets, i use the same pair.
 
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Is there any bug report about this, or any1 can make one?
(about dots being calculated dinamycaly and not on per cast basis)

Alot of classes have some positive bugs, they make more dps than it should and sprist are nerfed because of bad bugs

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Btw if you reforge hit rating to spirit you will get a bit more hit chance.
 
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hows that?
 
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