1. Shaman MOP

    Hello Everyone :). What do You think about shamans (resto / ele / enh) in MoP. Not only 5.4 but all patches :D?
    Let's talk about it :).

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    I find shaman in MoP to be awesome, some spells and abilities are really cool specially Ascendence, Astral shift and Totemic Persistent are really enjoyable. I still hate the new talent system since i prefer more flexibilty in my spec but meh there is nothing i can do about it. The new mechanics of fixed mana pool is rather annoying too...but my complains are about MoP mechanics not shaman as a class which specially for resto are really enjoyable.

  3. I find shaman in MoP to be awesome, some spells and abilities are really cool specially Ascendence, Astral shift and Totemic Persistent are really enjoyable. I still hate the new talent system since i prefer more flexibilty in my spec but meh there is nothing i can do about it. The new mechanics of fixed mana pool is rather annoying too...but my complains are about MoP mechanics not shaman as a class which specially for resto are really enjoyable.

    I don't play MoP, but I thought the new talent system actually allowed for more flexibility given that there's no longer a real 'cookie cutter' spec and you choose depending on your own playstyle.

    If that's not the case then there has never been much flexibility in choosing your talents anyway.

  4. Resto in MoP:
    PvE- crappy in HPS and more of a support healer, oldschool resto shamans are used to be dominant in healing by the end of every expansion which in Pandarias seems not to be the case.
    PvP-viable as always

  5. I will always love shaman no mather what, but do think MoP is to flashy, i mean with that to many ppl with spells that gives lot of glow, it becoming to much of lightshow

  6. One word. Ascendance. THE MOST ****ING AWESOME ABILITY EVER. It makes me wanna roll elemental again, because it makes them so fun and overpowered.

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    I don't play MoP, but I thought the new talent system actually allowed for more flexibility given that there's no longer a real 'cookie cutter' spec and you choose depending on your own playstyle.

    If that's not the case then there has never been much flexibility in choosing your talents anyway.
    Nope there isnt, only tier 3 and 4 talents really give you a choice thats 2/6 talents so percentage wise yeah we have more choice then we ever had. In tier 5 lets say i wanted to take conductivity but its not as good since in SoO there arent many fights whr ppl will stack for ~40 sec same with tier 1 and 2 no choice at all and in tier 6 the only talent that helps us is elemental blast.

    There have always been some choice for example i still miss that 15 min reincarnation in wotlk saved me and my guilds hundreds of wipes, similarly talents which gave passive crit could be used to save a lot of reforging on gear and things like that, previously in every build there were some points left which every shaman could spent according to thier raid build but not now

  8. enhancement is ****ing ridiculous in mop same with ele.resto is meh not the strongest healer by a long way

  9. MOP Shamans, Roll ele, bind chain lightning to everything, faceroll keyboard, top DPS.

    With your legendary clock, why bother even trying, every hit of CL procs another CL which can proc a CL... You see where Im going with this.

    Seen to many Restos still thinking they use mastery, annoys me. Haste best stat world.

    No-one plays enhancement due to 0 skill level to be top DPS as ele.

  10. saqibious's Avatar
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    ^This
    Ele shaman are awesome in MoP but since i still like my main spec to be Resto i was talking from that point of view

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    Seen to many Restos still thinking they use mastery, annoys me. Haste best stat world.
    Some mastery is ok but, never have enough haste for resto.

  12. Never played MoP, but I don't think I would roll a Shaman at all. I always play Resto/Ele, but I really hate the idea of stackin' Crit as a Healer, like, relyin' on somethin' that is completely unreliable. Or it's just that I never roll specs that go Crit>Mastery. Because I actually never do.
    Well, I could still roll Ele, but goin' full DPS when your class can be non-DPS sounds i d i o t ic (okay, can someone explain why "i d i o t" is censored here?) to me. So, if there is a chance that I ever play MoP, I'll probably roll somethin else, like an Arcane Mage or whatnot. And not that I really want to play MoP, Lore is all I care about and that I can just read.

  13. Elemental is just pure faceroll i mean look at youtube or the bleached bones tournament they globaled everyone regardless of how much resil they had and enhancement is the same except that you cant avoid the damage...

  14. Ehh check this out
    BiS
    #1Arcane 426,388 DPS 100%
    #2Enhancement 423,866 DPS 99.41%
    #3Beast Mastery 418,896 DPS 98.24%
    #4Feral 417,063 DPS 97.81%
    #5Survival 413,192 DPS 96.91%
    #6Demonology 412,248 DPS 96.68%
    #7Destruction 411,523 DPS 96.51%
    #8Balance 410,159 DPS 96.19%
    #9Affliction 407,696 DPS 95.62%
    #10Marksmanship 407,349 DPS 95.53%
    #11Subtlety 404,108 DPS 94.77%
    #12Fury 2h 395,858 DPS 92.84%
    #13Frost 393,707 DPS 92.34%
    #14Fire 387,463 DPS 90.87%
    #15Combat 386,649 DPS 90.68%
    #16Assassination 377,960 DPS 88.64%
    #17Elemental 377,459 DPS 88.52%
    #18Fury 1h 371,984 DPS 87.24%
    #19Frost 1h 365,923 DPS 85.82%
    #20Retribution 364,265 DPS 85.43%
    #21Windwalker 1h 360,772 DPS 84.61%
    #22Windwalker 2h 354,453 DPS 83.13%
    #23Frost 2h 349,162 DPS 81.89%
    #24Unholy 348,915 DPS 81.83%
    #25Arms 342,196 DPS 80.25%
    #26Shadow

    and
    468 ilvl (early game)

    #1Frost 2h 93,448 DPS 100%
    #2Frost 1h 91,759 DPS 98.19%
    #3Survival 87,139 DPS 93.25%
    #4Marksmanship 87,136 DPS 93.25%
    #5Frost 85,446 DPS 91.44%
    #6Unholy 83,190 DPS 89.02%
    #7Beast Mastery 82,957 DPS 88.77%
    #8Enhancement 81,165 DPS 86.86%
    #9Destruction 80,936 DPS 86.61%
    #10Windwalker 1h 79,896 DPS 85.5%
    #11Arms 79,104 DPS 84.65%
    #12Retribution 77,381 DPS 82.81%
    #13Feral 77,313 DPS 82.73%
    #14Subtlety 77,176 DPS 82.59%
    #15Fury 2h 75,011 DPS 80.27%
    #16Elemental 74,943 DPS 80.2%
    #17Arcane 73,905 DPS 79.09%
    #18Fury 1h 73,705 DPS 78.87%
    #19Windwalker 2h 73,404 DPS 78.55%
    #20Assassination 70,608 DPS 75.56%
    #21Demonology 69,114 DPS 73.96%
    #22Balance 68,779 DPS 73.6%
    #23Fire 65,997 DPS 70.62%
    #24Affliction 65,706 DPS 70.31%
    #25Shadow 65,160 DPS 69.73%
    #26Combat

    In early Enh #8 Ele #16...
    Late BiS enh pretty high #2 Ele #17

    Ele suck so hard ;<


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