Prot Warr Flag Carrying Guide 4.3.4 PvP

**Carryflags** · May 19, 2016

Prot Warr Flag Carrying Guide - 4.3.4 PvP

Written By: Carryflags (Warsong)

Table of Contents
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Part 1: Background and Basic Info

1A. Introduction
1B. Terminology
1C. Why are Prot Warriors the Best Flag Carrier in 4.3.4?
1D. Our Signature Abilities
1E. Helpful Addons, Keybinds, Macros

Part 2: Character Setup

2A. Race
2B. Talents
2C. Glyphs
2D. Resil or Stam? (Resil is King)
2E. Stat Priority (Reforging)
2F. Gear (w/ Gems + Enchants)
2G. PvE Heroic Items

Part 3: Carrying Flags

3A. Healers Are Important
3B. Best Healers to Accompany You
3C. Buffs and Consumables
3D. The Flag Carrier's Mentality
3E. First Phase - Flag Transportation
3F. Second Phase - Flag Attrition
3G. Effective Communication

Part 4: Epilogue
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Part 1: Background and Basic Info
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1A. Introduction

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1B. Terminology

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1C. Why are Prot Warriors the Best Flag Carrier in 4.3.4?

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Search around on google for the old 4.3.4 threads discussing RBG comps and you'll find an overwhelming majority of players asserting that Prot Warrior is the best FC in Cataclysm. But why?

Before I can answer that question, it's important to keep the following two terms in mind: Mobility and Survivability. They are the two essential attributes of any good flag carrier: mobility to move across the map as quickly as possible and to escape from enemies, survivability to endure massive damage along the way without dying.

So what? Prot Pallies and Feral Druids and BDKs can heal themselves (survivability), and feral druids have great mobility with shapeshifting. So how can a pwarr possibly be so widely considered the flag carrier of choice?

The short answer is that protection warriors have the best combination of mobility and survivability out of any possible class or spec. Although arms warriors are known for their lack of mobility, prot warriors receive a one-point talent called Warbringer which allows Charge, Intercept, and Intervene to be used in any stance (which means we never have to leave Defensive Stance) and Intervene now removes movement impairing effects. Along with our ability Heroic Leap, this talent single-handedly allows protection warriors to be one of the most mobile tanks in the entire game (essentially granting you 3 charges + leap). Heroic Leap also doesn't require a player target, meaning we can easily escape smoke bombs with trinket + leap (the only tank class able to do this). Lastly, as a plate-wearer with a wide arsenal of defensive abilities, "oh #$%&" emergency buttons, stuns, and silences, prot warriors have the survivability to withstand extreme punishment without dying.

Here's a list of the other tank specs and why they fall short as FCs:

Prot Pally - Very poor mobility; they rely on their Hand of Freedom to get around, which is easily dispelled. Some of their defensive CDs, like Divine Guardian, are pretty terrible for the job of flag carrier. They have self-healing in the form of Word of Glory, but unlike Ret they don't have Selfless Healer nor Sacred Shield, so they can only WoG themselves once every 20 seconds and not for very much. They do respectable damage for a tank class with Shield of the Righteous and some other talents, but again, being a flag carrier isn't about doing damage.

Feral/Resto Druid - Shapeshifting to remove movement impairing stuff, which is good, although they're more vulnerable to Desecration and similar effects than other tanks. Their main drawback is in their survivability: they have to switch out of bear form (i.e. give up their defense) to access some of their mobility CDs, their bear form Savage Defense is designed to synergize with Vengeance (which they don't get in PvP), and besides Frenzied Regen they don't get much very good in the way of defensive CDs. As a result, they're squishier than other tanks (if faster), so they're much better off fulfilling their main role of healer (if resto) or dps (if feral).

Blood DK - 2nd best choice for a flag carrier, in my opinion. They have the best survivability out of any tank by far as long as they can keep casting Death Strike, plus solid defensive CDs in the form of Anti-Magic Shell, Icebound Fortitude, and more. That said, if there's no melee targets in range, or if they're stuck in CC (which happens to FCs a lot) they can't death strike anything. Most importantly, their mobility is garbage; when they're caught in a smoke bomb getting pounded on by more people than they can handle, they can't leap out + intercept to safety. They're solid FCs, but prot warrior still takes the cake.

1D. Our Signature Abilities

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If you've already read the above section (and are hopefully by now convinced that pwarr is in fact the best FC in 4.3.4), then you've already heard about some of our core abilities. Below you'll find a more exhaustive list and a description to go along with each one.

Mobility

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Survivability

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Sentinel - The passive buff we receive for choosing Prot as our spec. Increases stamina by 15%, block chance by 15%, and generates 50% more rage for attacking targets that are not targeting us. This passive allows us to easily reach buffed healthpools of 200k or more, even if we stack resil instead of stam (which is what we'll be doing). Moreover, the extra rage generation will keep us swimming in rage, allowing us to spam our abilities nonstop.

Defensive Stance - It's a passive worth mentioning. 10% reduction to all damage and 6% less chance to be crit (talented) is nothing to scoff at. 99% of the time, you'll want to be in this stance--that remaining 1% of circumstances is covered below. And with Warbringer, as described earlier, you can stay in Defensive Stance to use Charge and Intercept.

Shield Block - 30 second CD, so use it often. Increases your block chance to help reduce damage from melees, but more importantly with 3/3 shield mastery it reduces magic damage taken by 20% for 6 seconds. It's one of the few spell damage mitigation abilities we have.

Shield Wall - Glyphed, it gives 60% reduction to all damage (including spell damage, which is our main weakness) for 12 seconds on a 4 minute CD. It's a great emergency button. Can't be used while disarmed, but getting disarmed after you've popped it doesn't make the buff go away. Therefore, this ability should be used in a preemptive manner; pop it when you're anticipating you're about to receive heavy damage + CC but before they have a chance to disarm you.

Last Stand - A modified version of Rallying Cry we get from our talents. It shares a CD with Rallying Cry so we can't use both. Grants 30% health for 20 seconds (Rallying Cry grants 20% health for 10 seconds), but it only affects us, not party and raidmembers nearby. That's fine, though, since we'll be getting focused down hard, we deserve the boost more than our teammates do. This ability does NOT share a cooldown with Battlemaster's trinkets, and as such it should typically be popped in conjunction with those trinkets as part of a macro (see macros section). Can't be used when silenced, so watch out for that.

Enraged Regeneration - Should be included in the above macro with Rallying Cry and Battlemaster's trinket for your second emergency button. By elevating your maximum health, the ticks from Enraged Regen will heal for more, so when the health boosts wear off you'll have healed more of your total %. Again, can't be used while silenced, so watch out for that.

Spell Reflect - The most useful defensive ability in our arsenal hands down. 20 sec CD glyphed, and you'll often want to pop it as soon as it's up. Since you're a flag carrier, everyone on the other team will be throwing their strongest abilities you at the same time--so you're guaranteed to reflect something good, be it a Lava Burst, a Deep Freeze, a Chains of Ice, or even a Death Grip (it'll pull the DK to you and your allies, which is infinitely better than you getting pulled away into a pile of enemies).

Victory Rush - We won't be getting any killing blows since we do no damage, but thanks to our Impending Victory talent we'll still occasionally be able to use this once in a while for a sort of mini-Death Strike effect.

Utility

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Many moves can be used either to enable mobility (for example, by stunning an opponent while you make an escape) or survivability (for example, by stunning a boomkin when he's Starfalling). Others are simply buffs and debuffs that should be maintained on as many enemies as possible at all times.

Commanding Shout - An undispellable Fortitude buff that generates rage when cast? Yes, please. Keep this up on you and your friends at all times. On you, with your stamina multipliers, Commanding Shout will amount to around 10k health.

Devastate - Bread-and-butter ability #1. No CD; applies Sunder Armor effect; with Sword and Board, procs free Shield Slams (30% chance); with Impending Victory, procs a mini Victory Rush (50% chance) when used on enemies with 20% or less health. If you're not doing anything else, you should be Devastating. Spread the debuff to as many enemies as possible.

Shield Slam - Bread-and-butter ability #2. Purges 1 magic effect off an enemy every 6 seconds with a 30% chance for CD refresh every time you hit with Devastate. Purge everything important: pally wings/hands, mage bubbles, priest bubbles, even simply buffs like BoK or PW:F.

Rend - Bleed debuff. The damage is pitiful, but it helps to keep rogues out of stealth, prevent bandaging, and support your teammates' bleed-related effects (like a rogue's hemo). Spread it to as many enemies as possible, made easier with the use of Thunder Clap.

Thunder Clap - AoE debuff that reduces enemy attack speed. Use it whenever it's up and spread the effect to as many enemies as possible. With the Blood and Thunder talent, you can use Thunderclap to spread your Rend very easily across many targets.

Demoralizing Shout - AoE debuff that reduces enemy physical damage by 10%. Keep it up on as many enemies as possible.

Concussion Blow - Throwdown on a 30 second CD instead of a 45 second one. It's a physical ability so it can be applied through defenses like Cloak of Shadows and can't be dispelled except with trinket, but it can also be dodged or parried, so try to use it from behind if you can.

Shockwave - Stuns ALL enemies in a 10-yard frontal cone for 4 seconds. This is an outstanding ability for flag carrying; when the melee pain train is riding you hard, you can quickly turn around and stun them all at once to make your escape, and its on a short CD to boot.

Heroic Throw - With our Gag Order talent, Heroic Throw becomes a ranged 3-second silence on a 30 second CD. You'll be using it often; casters' damage ignores our armor and our block chance, so the main way to mitigate caster damage is to prevent them from casting in the first place.

Pummel - 4 second interrupt, 3 second silence with Gag Order. Along with our many stuns (conc blow, shockwave, charge, intercept), we can use Heroic Throw and Pummel to keep a threatening enemy caster locked down hard.

Disarm - We're already in Defensive Stance pretty much all the time, so we really don't have to macro it to anything if we don't want to (I do anyway). While the primary usage of this ability is to turn off enemy warriors' reckstorms, keep an eye out for DKs with Rune of the Fallen Crusader, as you can disarm them to disable their Strike abilities for a full 10 seconds.

Hamstring - There are only two reasons you'll ever be switching out of Defensive Stance, and this is the first one. When you're being trained by melee, you can swap to Battle Stance, hamstring your pursuers, and then charge/intercept/intervene/leap away to safety. It's basically a self-peel.

Shattering Throw - This is the second one. Switch to Battle Stance when a mage IBs or a pally bubbles to dispel their invulnerability and allow your team to finish them off.

Intimidating Shout - More self-peels. When the melee pain train is beating the snot out of you, you can fear them away to give yourself an opening to escape or your healer an opening to top you off. Long CD though, so use it with caution.

Berserker Rage - Remove and grant yourself immunity to fears, saps, and incapacitates for 10 seconds every 30 seconds. Since you'll spend most of the game running away, you'll often be out of combat. Therefore, rogues will love to sap you to slow you down while their team catches up to you. Moreover, warlocks, whenever they see you, will love to fear chain you, again just to buy time. This ability can be used to counter both of those strategies. And lastly, you can use it to fuel your own Enraged Regeneration if you don't happen to be Enraged when you need it (or if a pesky rogue is shivving off all your enrage procs).

1E. Helpful Addons, Keybinds, Macros

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Personally I'm a big believer in the fact that the addons, keybinds, and macros you use should be your personal preference. Everyone is comfortable with different keyboard and UI layouts. All that said, there are a few addons/macros/keybinds that I do strongly suggest you use, and they're listed below.

For addons, I recommend:

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For macros, I use:

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For keybinds, I'm not going to tell you which key you should assign which ability, because that's totally up to you and what you're comfortable with. That said, it's absolutely mandatory that you have Strafe Left and Strafe Right bound. As I'll explain later, you never want to run directly away from the melee pain train because then you can't block/dodge/parry. And you don't want to backpedal (walk backwards) away from them because you move super slow. Instead, you want to turn the camera and strafe sideways (hunters are well-familiar with this tactic), which allows you to run away at full speed while still keeping your front to your opponents for block/dodge/parry mitigation.

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Part 2: Character Setup
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2A. Race

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2B. Talents

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2C. Glyphs

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2D. Resil or Stam? (Resil is King)

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2E. Stat Priority (Reforging)

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2F. Gear (w/ Gems + Enchants)

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2G. PvE Heroic Items

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Part 3: Carrying Flags
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3A. Healers Are Important

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3B. Best Healers to Accompany You

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Of course, any healer helping you is better than no healer. But, that said, just as certain tanks are better than others for the role of flag carrier, certain healers are better than others for the role of accompanying a flag carrier on his or her important mission. Below I have ranked the healing classes in order from the most helpful to least helpful.

#1. Holy Paladin - These guys are our best friends. Hand of Freedom is great when it doesn't get dispelled--but even when it does, their Cleanse alone removes many of the most ubiquitous slows we'll be facing on the Battleground, including Frost Fever from Frost DKs (disease), Crippling Poison from rogues (poison), Infected Wound from ferals (disease), Frostbolt/CoC chills from mages (magic), and many more. Combined with their amazing pocket heals from Beacon of Light, their plethora of instant-cast spells to heal on the move, and their wide arsenal of emergency CDs, holy paladins complement us perfectly.

#2. Disc Priests - Solid dispels (double magic dispel + disease dispel + aoe dispel), fear ward, numerous emergency CDs, nice peels, good mana regen (they'll need to be healing for a long time). They can Life Grip to help with our mobility and employ Binding Heal for easy pocketing. They're less mobile than hpalas since they have to channel/cast more, and their PW:F buff does not stack with our Commanding Shout, but they're still a great choice to accompany us. In fact, it's basically mandatory in an RBG to have at least 1 priest on your team, simply because Mass Dispel spamming is so strong.

#3. Resto Shaman - Unfortunately they can't dispel anything other than magic effects (they can get curses, too, but we don't deal with many of them), but they do pocket heal like champs. They'll keep Earth Shield and Riptide on you at all times, they can slow your pursuers and flush out stealthies with totems, and with ghost wolf they've got the mobility to keep up with you as you zip across the battlefield. They have some good defensive CDs, too (spirit link is great). Their main drawback is that they can run out of mana if they're not careful, but careful mana management will help them with that.

#4. Resto Druid - Again, any healer is better than no healer...but these guys are the least helpful of the possibilities as far as healing goes. They dispel magic and poison, which is nice, and they have great aoe heals, but their single-target pocket heals are not as good as other classes', since they rely on hots which the enemy team will be happy to dispel/spellsteal off of us. Plus they have the fewest emergency buttons and tend to oom fast when they're under pressure. Rdruids make for acceptable 3rd or 4th healers, but the main heals suite needs to be made of stronger classes like hpals and dpriests.

3C. Buffs and Consumables

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3D. The Flag Carrier's Mentality

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If you haven't played as a flag carrier before, it might take you a little while to fully acclimate yourself to the job. As a flag carrier we see the battlefield in a different way than other roles: we don't look at enemies like targets for us to kill, we don't look at allies as targets for us to heal. We are concerned only for our own survival, for the survival of our healers, and for capping the flag. To that end, these mantras below serve not only as guidelines for our actions, but moreover as a veritable mentality that defines our role as flag carrier.

#1. All enemies are charge targets - Every time you see a red name standing in a given location, you should immediately recognize that that's a location you can easily reach yourself via a Charge or Intercept. Caster/ranged classes will love to move ahead of you as you're flag carrying so they'll have time to get some hardcasts off (as opposed to standing behind you and casting while you run out of their range). You can thank them for their efforts every time by charging them for some easy ground coverage.

#3. All allies are Intervene targets - Every time you see a friendly player, you should immediately recognize that that's a location you can easily reach yourself via an Intervene. For that reason, you should always have at least one player--preferably your healer--staying in front of you while you're flag carrying to use as an Intervene target if you get stuck.

#4. Lock down high-spike spellcasters - Keep an eye out for any casters, especially Boomkins, Affliction Warlocks, Arcane Mages, Ele Shamans, and Shadow Priests. We can't mitigate spell damage nearly as well as we can physical, so these guys can really rip you a new #%&hole if you let them freecast--not to mention that Shadow Priests can mana burn your healer. Train them mercilessly, or at least as mercilessly as you can while focusing on your objective (capping flags), and use your numerous stuns and silences to prevent them from casting. Don't even bother hugging the wall if it means letting a powerful caster freecast at you; whatever damage you mitigate by forcing melees to attack your front will be more than made up for by the damage you're failing to mitigate by not locking down the caster.

#5. Walls are your friend - Anytime you can hug a wall, whether you're running with the flag or standing still with it, you should be hugging a wall. Glue your back to it, turn your camera, and move by strafing. Thanks to your high block chance, the amount of damage that any melee class can do to you is dramatically reduced simply by forcing them to attack you head-on, not to mention that certain superstrong moves that require the target to be facing away (e.g. Ambush, Backstab, Ravage) can't be used on you at all if the enemies can't get to your back.

#6. Smokebombs are the devil - Smokebombs return flags--it's really as simple as that. All it takes is one well-timed bomb and a few coordinated people to unload on you. If you're caught in a bomb, know that your life is in imminent peril, especially if you're out of defensive CDs and you've already got some Focused Assault stacks on you. Don't be afraid to blow trinket and heroic leap to get out.

#7. Spread those debuffs - Every enemy within range of you should have Rend, Thunderclap, Demoralizing Shout, and 3 stacks of Sunder Armor on them at all times. They should also have no magic buffs on them. Any global not spent on a mobility action or a defensive CD should be spent maintaining those debuffs or purging enemy buffs with Shield Slam.

#8. You are a god - With your healer(s) at your side, you are by far the most difficult person to kill on your team. You are also the highest value target on your team. Relish in it. You are a prot warrior. You cannot be stopped. You are a god!

#9. You are a team player - Keeping #8 in mind, know that you can't do it alone. You need healers to keep you alive. You need dps to kill the EFC. Winning a battleground is a team project, and while your individual role on that team is very important, your victory--or your defeat--is the result of everyone's efforts combined.

3E. First Phase - Flag Transportation

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Conceptually it might help to think of a CTF BG in 2 phases that repeat over and over again. Each phase presents unique challenges.

The first is Flag Transportation, wherein you and your team endeavor to physically move the flag from the heart of the enemy base into the heart of your own base. This is the phase where your mobility skills will come in most handy; you'll spend most of it outdoors in the no-man's-land between the two bases, and your goal will be to traverse that land quickly and without dying.

Many important strategies for this phase I have already mentioned. Your healer(s) should always stay in front of you so as to provide an Intercept target. You should see every enemy's location as a potential spot that you can charge to. You should run sideways, strafing, hugging walls where you can, to force enemy melee to attack your front, where you can block/dodge/parry them. You should fall back to your healers if they lag behind rather than running ahead and becoming separated, unless you're absolutely sure that speeding on ahead will result in an imminent cap for your team.

But there's a little more to it than that. As the flag carrier, you'll be responsible for deciding which route to take: left, center, or middle (if you're in TP)? Or tunnel, ramp, GY (if you're in WSG)? In general, you want to take the route that positions your team between you and the enemy team, but not so far away from your team that they can't rally to you in time if necessary. So, for example, if you're in WSG on alliance, and your team is fighting the enemy team near their GY, then taking the tunnel out of the Horde base would be a good choice. Your fellow allies are positioned between you and the Hordes, but they're not so far away that they can't fall back to you if needed (as they would be if you had taken the ramp).

If you're being trained hard and some of your teammates are down, it might be wise to modify your flag carrying route to run past your team's graveyard. That way anyone who respawns as you run past can immediately jump into the fight and reinforce you. But is it always worth it to make that detour? No, not always. As a flag carrier you need to have supreme map awareness to make those kind of decisions on-the-fly (it'll come with practice).

All in all, transporting the flag is, at least in my opinion, the easier phase of the battle. The goal of this phase is to keep moving, and with all your mobility skills, moving is something you do really well.

3F. Second Phase - Flag Attrition

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So now you've made it back to your flag room. But what's this! Your flag is gone. Yes, while you were running with the enemy's flag, the EFC was running with your flag--and like you, he's made it all the way back to his own flag room.

Now comes the more difficult phase: Flag Attrition. Your goal here is to stay alive, same as before--but this time, you're not escaping anywhere. Your team has to split up, with you, at least one healer, and at least one dps staying behind in your base, while everyone else pushes for an assault on the EFC.

Here the BG becomes a war of attrition. You and your small group of fellow defenders must survive wave after wave of enemy pushes, all while a stacking debuff called "Focused Assault" builds up on you (10% increased damage taken per stack, all the way up to 10 stacks = 100% increased damage taken).

NOTE: Currently Focused Assault stacks seem to be bugged in Twin Peaks. They do work as intended in WSG, however.

This phase is dependent largely on the rest of your team: you need strong, mana-efficient healers to keep you alive for a prolonged period of time, and bursty DPS with quick reaction times to snipe the EFC and return your flag. That said, as an FC there are still strategies to keep in mind for this phase.

As always, you want to keep your back to a wall--preferably a corner, as sometimes a flat wall can still allow a rogue to get at your "back" by standing directly to your side. At the same time, however, you want to keep yourself close to the flag area, such that you can immediately cap when your flag is returned (before the enemy team, who will probably be fighting you in your flag room at the time of the return, can snag it and run off with it again).

So, for example, this location on the roof of the Alliance base in WSG is a bad place to stand:

First of all, I'm not standing in a corner, so my sides are still vulnerable to "rear" hits. Secondly and most importantly, though, is that I'm too far away from the cap zone. In the event of a return, I would have to round the corner, run to the edge of the roof, jump off the roof, and then Heroic Leap while falling into the cap zone. That whole process, though, takes a lot of time--at least 4 or 5 seconds, and that's assuming I don't get slowed/rooted/stunned along the way--which is more than enough time, if the base were under assault at that moment, for one of the invading Horde players to grab the flag and run off with it again before I made it to the cap zone. Plus, if I mistime my Heroic Leap or if it's on CD, I'll suffer falling damage from landing off the roof--which might just be enough to kill me if I'm low on health.

In contrast, this is a much better place to stand:

Here, my back is to a corner so that I cannot be easily pounced, ambushed, etc., and most importantly I'm directly next to the cap zone, such that as soon as the return occurs all I have to do is take a step or two forward, trinket if necessary, and Heroic Leap to the right (my right, image left) for an instant point.

I don't recommend standing directly in the cap zone. First of all, on WSG, the cap zone is enclosed a little bit such that it's difficult for your healer to keep LoS of you. Additionally, I've noticed from time to time in my personal experience on Molten that if you stand in the cap zone when a return occurs, you don't immediately score a point; you actually have to run out of the cap zone and back into it for the score. I could be merely superstitious, but I always endeavor to stand as close as possible to the cap zone without actually standing inside of it partly for that reason.

Lastly, keep in mind once again that standing in your defensive corner isn't always advantageous during this phase. If you're being assaulted by an ele sham and a frost DK, whatever damage you mitigate from the frost DK by keeping your back to the corner will be more than made up for in overwhelming spike damage from the Ele Shaman if you don't train him and stop his casting with stuns + silences.

The attrition phase ends when one side kills the other side's EFC and scores a point. Then both flags are reset, and the transportation phase begins anew.

3G. Effective Communication

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In both phases described above, team communication is absolutely essential to your success. In an RBG, everyone should be communicating with each other, preferably via some sort of VoIP medium--but in a random BG, take it upon yourself, as your team's flag carrier, to keep the information flowing. If you spot the EFC, announce his name and intended path (left, middle, tunnel, ramp, etc.) to the rest of your team. Notify your team every time you acquire another Focused Assault stack, since the number you have will always be the same as the number the EFC has.

In a similar vein, when you're holed up in your base in attrition, constantly be informing your teammates about your condition. Are you safe? Are you under attack? Are you going to die soon, or can you hold out for a long while? Do you need assistance from the team in clearing out a particularly aggressive push?

Meanwhile, your team should be feeding you information as well. Are there enemies incoming to the FR? If so, how many? How many enemies are defending the EFC? What's the %health remaining on the EFC?

That lattermost question is particularly important. You want to know ahead of time when the EFC is about to die so that you can be prepared to immediately capture the flag as soon as it's returned before the enemy team has a chance to grab it again (which will probably happen very quickly if you're not alert, because in all likelihood, there will be enemies in your flag room actively fighting you when the flag is returned). Likewise, if you're going to die, you want to notify the rest of your team well ahead of time so that they can prepare themselves to snag the enemy flag again before the EFC has a chance to cap).

Through maintaining a steady flow of information among your team, you can more efficiently coordinate yourselves to operate as a cohesive unit and to counter enemy strategies. When both teams are well-geared and sufficiently skilled, oftentimes the Battleground is decided more by team coordination and tactics than by anything else.

Remember, first and foremost you are a team player, and so only by playing as a team and helping one another will you achieve victory on the Battleground.

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Part 4: Epilogue
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Thanks very much for taking the time to read my guide! I hope you found it informative. Comments, criticism, and further suggestions are welcome and encouraged; even with all I've recorded here, I'm still continually honing my personal skills as a flag carrier, and I know that even now I have more yet to master.

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Have fun flag carrying!

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