Hi all,I need little help about my DK... I have DK on deathwing 5,7k gs and i played like frost-sub blood talens with Glorenzelg,with that talents and weapon i make 8-9k dps i ICC an i know to its low for 5,7k gs DK... My question is, Is better to i play with two 1h weapons but fast (Scourgeborne Waraxe) or to continue playing with Glorenzelg frost?? Ty anyone and I know to best is to play Unholy with Glorenzelg but i wana go Frost... :D
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Frost DK with Glorenzelg? or 2 fast 1h weapons
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Two-hand Frost sucks, especially now when Killing Machine proc got fixed. You basically almost can't even get it with two-hand weapon.
The dual-wield weapons you should aim for are the ones with 2.6 speed.
http://wotlk.openwow.com/?item=50787
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50412
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50012
(Heroic ones included of course)
Also, Gloren sucks for every dk spec there is. I guess you could pull it on Blood tank perhaps for expertise until you don't get fullbis, but even there Bryntroll (http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50709) is far superior - as for Unholy as well.
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Yeah i know that but are you think is better to play with this fast weapons until i found 2.6 weapons?? Or to stay like that?
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I wouldn't be using 1.5 weapons at all (well, for dual-wield tank I guess I would, but otherways no). Their damage is too low for dps. My thoughts? Make Unholy spec and do raids like that - you'll perform a lot better. At least until you get some decent 2.6 weapons :P
With 2 x 1.5 weapons or Gloren on Fdk your dps is going to suck hard!Edited: April 29, 2015
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Ok,ty for quick reply... Have fun :D
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I'm sorry but this is pure bullcrap. Bryntroll, even if it actually had a working proc on warmane, wouldn't be even close to Gloren for UH. Let me tell you why. First off, higer base damage of white hits; Gloren hits harder and does about 20 weapon dps more. Second would be the 21 extra strength; on Gloren you get 13 str more in stats + 8 str socket bonus cause of 3 red gems. Troll has red, green, yellow. Third, 122 crit rating, which is after strength and with haste, second best stat for UH DKs. Fourth, the 114 expertise rating becomes roughly around 10 expertise. Considering you get 5 more from talent, there's no need to get t10 legs (with expertise) and you can get the BiS legs, aka Scourge Reaver's Legplates. As simple as that.
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http://oi60.tinypic.com/24x108p.jpg
I didn't break any records or something, but with 6k gs it isn't bad(I have that terrible terrible Glorenzelg which sucks so hard). Notice the other dk with 17k dps- he's 6.4kgs frost :)
As for Phil95, you should check this thread out: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....(Blood-Reaper)
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I never said it's terribad. It's one of 3 choices Unholy DK's got - SM, Bryntroll and Gloren. The thing is that I wouldn't be donating a weapon for my dk at all, you can get Bryntroll pretty easily (both HC and Normal version) from raids.
And well, agility weapons suck on dk's + they all give arpen so no for Unholy. Cryptmaker isn't good because of arpen as well. Thus leaving you up to the choice from above.
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for every spec whit two hand wep sm>gloren>crypt>se
bryntroll give that life steal stats really great for pve dps...... better to have exp from gloren so you can take legs whit haste - crit - arp, or crypt so you can take hands whit arp - haste.
p.s. unholy whit 75%+ arp doing more dps-dmg on single target then whit str
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Yeah, you clearly didn't say it sucks. Bryntroll is the weapon that sucks, especially here on warmane. Whatever spec you are playing you always have to get both hit and expertise caps, so if you roll with Glorenzelg you just have to go with t10 hands and nonset legs.
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Just re-spec to Unholy or Blood (although I think Blood DPS still doesn't work on Molten). If I saw you in my raid using 2H Frost, I'd kick you instantly. Frost Strike was changed on 3.2, nerfing it for 2H and buffing it for DW. ToT was also added as a talent at that point. Don't get me wrong - I was 2H Frost on retail until 3.2, but after that - no, just no.
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Depends on the gear, if you can get to ~75% arp go for blood. It works, with minor bugs, but it works.
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So you mean to tell me that Blood Gorged, Bloodworms and Dancing Rune Weapon now work properly?
edit: nvm, scouted the bugtracker and found something much more major in addition to Bloodworms not scaling.Edited: May 3, 2015
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DRW works fine, Bloodworms seem fine(apart from the healing part) and even though I had to go for 100% arp from gear, it's still worth it.
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Still, the 2.5sec rule not working on ex-Molten realms gimps all DK specs, but Blood the most. It's just that with Frost's previous bugs nobody seemed to care before. Now it matters.
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