1. it heals 5% of your current max hp for every disease on target. what the hell are you talking about... portion of damage... wtf.
    tooltip says that each hand will hit death strike, so it highly logical that offhand heals same 5% for each disease, even if it does 1 damage.
    Liek I said, was long ago. But if I'm not mistaken, ToT never included secondary effects like DS heals, only the DS portion of damage was applied to the offhand.

  2. You do know ToT offhand DS heals are an insanely op bug?
    Have you played retail, mate? ToT DS should heal for both weapons, that's the main reason I picked Frost tanking back then.

    Frost ToT DS - (2*5%)*2
    Blood DS - ((2*5%)*1.5[Improved Death Strike])*1.35[Vampiric Blood]
    Unholy DS - (3*5%)[Crypt Fever/ Ebon Plague]

    DS with ToT makes Frost the spec with the highest self-heals, capable of doing 3*DS (with Blood of the North) for 20% HP each. However, Obli still generates more TPS so you don't see Frost tanks spamming DS (or at least shouldn't, considering decent avoidance and healers). Blood is the same - 4*HS > 2*DS in terms of TPS. For Unholy SS > DS too.

    I mean, of course you'll use DS if the damage spike is big and predictable, and if your survival relies on it, but otherwise it's a loss in TPS.
    Edited: June 10, 2015

  3. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3764968638

    Here you can easily see that is assumed that Death strike doesn't double heal even with ToT.

    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=66192/t...arian#comments

    Ctrl+F "Sumona" The guy asks a question if death strike should double heal, and another guy replies no, since TOT specifically says that your secondary weapon deals damage, it's not suppouse to double heal (And frankly, i doubt blizzard would wanted to make Frost dks op as ****)

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3225583729

    Read the main topic.... It's self explanatory

    I know all of these topics are from cataclysm, so most of you would disagree with them so i decided to look back for some Wotlk footage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77B8XGBXarw

    Look at 5:40 to 5:50 you can see him heal for 3k (Death strike i assume) and he uses constantly in that period, so that should be enough proof.

  4. OK, in that case I was an ***** back when I played retail and this thread makes no sense.

  5. So my memory did serve me right after all; ToT didn't include secondary effects like DS heals for offhand. Which brings us back to my statement that it's OP bugged. Apologies are well accepted. :P

  6. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3764968638

    Here you can easily see that is assumed that Death strike doesn't double heal even with ToT.

    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=66192/t...arian#comments

    Ctrl+F "Sumona" The guy asks a question if death strike should double heal, and another guy replies no, since TOT specifically says that your secondary weapon deals damage, it's not suppouse to double heal (And frankly, i doubt blizzard would wanted to make Frost dks op as ****)

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3225583729

    Read the main topic.... It's self explanatory

    I know all of these topics are from cataclysm, so most of you would disagree with them so i decided to look back for some Wotlk footage.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77B8XGBXarw

    Look at 5:40 to 5:50 you can see him heal for 3k (Death strike i assume) and he uses constantly in that period, so that should be enough proof.
    All those "facts" comments are written in 2012(3 years AFTER CATACLYSM release fyi).

    And that video.. just rofl. I can't see combat log, even combat text is disabled. All I see is 3.4k heal on his own portrait(you know now DK using tot+ds heals 3.4k x2, not 6.8k).

    Also very powerful argument is - why there is no thousand frost DKs in top arenas, BGs and everywhere? Double healing "bug" I think that'd be exploited massively 24/7 by everyone. Or this doesn't make sense huh?

  7. All those "facts" comments are written in 2012(3 years AFTER CATACLYSM release fyi).

    And that video.. just rofl. I can't see combat log, even combat text is disabled. All I see is 3.4k heal on his own portrait(you know now DK using tot+ds heals 3.4k x2, not 6.8k).

    Also very powerful argument is - why there is no thousand frost DKs in top arenas, BGs and everywhere? Double healing "bug" I think that'd be exploited massively 24/7 by everyone. Or this doesn't make sense huh?
    The first 2 links are from 2011, the third one is from 2012 (January). Cataclysm was released on December 2010...

    Yeah ofc you can only see the portrait, but you can also see his health bar and is not increasing 6.8k after he uses DS. 2 bad there isn't enough frost dk footage out there (frankly not gonna see every vid)

    But yeah maybe i don't have enough evidence, do what you want, keep playing with your op heals or report it and play it how it's meant to be.

  8. Idk, I clearly remember healing for 2x on retail with my DK but I guess my mind was making it up.

  9. keep playing with your op heals or report it and play it how it's meant to be.
    Can you give some real info on this, not random dudes in comments and video that can be made in 10mins on my own private server?

    Make bug report, there are some guys with lots of knowledge out there you know.

  10. Yeah, unfortunately there isn't enough evidence out since this xpac is at least 5 years old and people don't really talk about the talent.

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