Ok so I just got called a "noob" for having cleave in my rotation on Lk phase 1 which I don't mind but I have a question to all you "pro" fury warrs out there.
But I am a 6.2k furry warr with Glyph of Cleaving, Glyph of Heroic Strike, Glyph of Wirlwind.
My rotation was BT>WW>HS>CLEAVE>Slam and CDs as I see fit ofc.
I also have 3 points in improved cleaving talent. And 1 point in Enrage talent.
So I've been told that cleaving LK on first phase will do less damage on Lichking himself. Why? I have DrDamage addon that tells me that my average cleave dmg is 6001 (unbuffed) and heroic strike is 6011 (unbuffed) so the damage of the skill itself is pretty much the same. I know that Cleave costs more rage 20 and heroic strike costs 12 if you have 3 points in Improved heoic strike talent. I also understand that Heroic Strike criticals give me additional rage because of the glyph. (Don't have rage issues either way due to ghouls attacking me when I use cleave.)
During our conversation about Cleave these things came up.
Pros: Endless rage pool due to ghouls attacking you when using cleave. (counters cleave rage cost)
Pros: Enrage talent proccing due to damage. (more dps)
Pros: Biggest Epeen on DPS charts.
Pros: Lowers Ghoul Hp making it easier to transfer and stack Necrotic.
Cons: Healers having to work harder healing Ghoul smacks.
Cons: Lower damage to Lichking himself according to the person who called me a noob. (not noticed during single target testing)
Cons: Slam doesn't proc as often lowering my single target dps. (tested both rotations and slam damage done over 1.4 mil damage Slam with HS spam did 0.5 % more damage overall. And that could easily be countered by a good procc. So it's really not that big of a single target DPS increase.)
So again my question is "How can my damage to LK be lower while using Cleave/HS combo? (both skills hit pretty much the same amount) And how can Spamming Heroic Strike increase my DPS?