WotLK [Guide] Vast's Assassination Rogue Bis Lists t7/t8/t8hm

[Spatter]

Nice, I'll be back for next week and onwards. I kinda am messing around with like 3-4 different setups. Not that it matters at this point, since the DPS is way too high as it is. And since getting all BiS items, the fluctuation is still a lot. One week 7.7k, next week 7k barely. Same gear. All I am using different at the moment is the bracers, as I don't have the maexxna ones...

[gad777x]

few updates. and this will be the final post here for t7 content, expect an ulduar bis list

[gad777x]

updated for ulduar

[Nervecalmer]

Vast: This is for T8 BiS, includes 10 N/HC and 25 N/HC
Professions: JC and Engi

What's your take on the gear I have listed below? Just from gear,enchants, and gems I'm looking at:
Gear Str 16
Gear Agi 1176
Gear AP 3055
Gear Crit 632
Gear Hit 278
Gear Expertise 172
Gear Haste 289
Gear ArPen 158


I would like to know your thoughts, not saying I'm 100% right that whats below is bis but it's just my opinion and I'm looking for some feed back.


Helm: http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45893
Enchant Arcanum of Torment
Meta Gem Relentless Earthsiege Diamond
Gems Enchanted Tear

Necklace http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45517
Gems Bright Dragon's Eye (68 AP)

Shoulders http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=46127
Enchant Greater Inscription of the Axe
Gems Bright Dragon's Eye (68 AP)

Back http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45461
Enchant Flexweave Underlay
Gems Pristine Monarch Topaz (16 AP/8 Hit)

Chest http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45473
Enchant Enchant Chest – Powerful Stats
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)
Gems Bright Dragon's Eye (68 AP)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Wrist http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45611
Enchant Enchant Bracer – Greater Assault
Gems Pristine Monarch Topaz (16 AP/8 Hit)

Gloves http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=46124
Enchant Hyperspeed Accelerators
Gems Precise Scarlet Ruby (16 Exp)

Belt http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=46095
Belt Buckle Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Legs http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45536
Enchant Icescale Leg Armor
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Boots http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45564
Enchant Enchant Boots – Icewalker
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Ring1 http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45608
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Ring2 http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=46048
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Trinket1 http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=46038
Trinket2 http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45609


Mainhand http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45484
Enchant Berserking (MH)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Offhand http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45484
Enchant Berserking (OH)
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

Ranged http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45296
Gems Bright Scarlet Ruby (32 AP)

[gad777x]

Hey dude, sure thats why I started this thread so rogues can discuss stuff together and so that I could share my knowledge with the community.

Okay first u dont need so much hit, dw about your mainhand its capped at 8%=) only offhand white will miss which is the same speed either way, hit would scale better if you used a slow offhand . So I would lose some hit pieces, maybe the ranged and the ring loop of agile gives u a lot of crit and might be a better option. Could also use maybe ignis boots instead of craft. I guess youre avoiding haste a bit because u are using 2 fast daggers.

I understand u wish to use the10man head since its awesome but from my spreadsheet i lose dps if i use it +legs/shoulders tier over tier head + 239 shoulder.

Theres a lot more passive haste from gear at ulduar level so having a fast offhand like in t7 wont be as good, again dps loss.

About the trinket choices , Dark might look good but doesnt really perform that well sure the 220ap passive is nice however, the proc is like what 13% crit. Its a bit hard choice with trinkets cuz even darkmooncard performs very well, however I feel that the hit rating from yogg trinket gives you a lot of freedom to optimize other gear parts+ the fact that it has a huge proc which you can track on weak auras for example and just time it with engi gloves/berserking to make it more effective just makes me wanna use it.

P.S. I had to do this list for my guild, its not 100% finalized but apart from possibly somesmall optimizations I think its ok.I i just decided to share it with you. Maybe we can improve it together

[Nervecalmer]

First, I want to point out that you are correct that the Conqueror's Terrorblade Helmet and Shoulderpads of the Intruder is a better combo. I over saw it when using my spread sheet to compare gear, thank you for that!

In my previous post I corrected the gear stats, I had blood of the old god equipped by mistake and that's why I had over 400 hit, lol.

Was the hit cap of MH only being 8% and OH being 24% switched in 3.3.5? http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Dual_wield says the 24% applies to the MH too. Is this something you tested on warmane, if so that is something I was unaware of.

If you don't mind me asking what EP values do you use for the gear you selected to be BiS?

You can track dark matter proc too, with that ~13% crit increase your focused attacks are generating a lot more energy for you.

I checked on the PTR and a lot of the gear is missing or i just couldn't find it. Maybe when that comes out I can generate some in game numbers.

[gad777x]

just some thing i remeber from 10yrs ago, havent thought about it will test it when i have time , atm ulduar + exams

/w me ingame

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