WotLK Ret Pally [Lordaeron] T7 BiS list

[Selaya]

I know the base damage is 3/4 but after all the talents its 90 something, I think it was 97? (or was that with the pvp gloves? can`t recall; then its 93 and 432*93/97 = 414 AP)
And the 14 multiplier is the AP one in reverse (14 ap per 1 point of DPS)
This is still not factoring in raidbuffs (Blood DK and Hunters) which would lower the effective AP value even further to the factor of 10/11

[kjgower95]

Attempting to do the quest chain for the Libram of Furious Blows, but the pre-quest Vision of air is bugged and cannot be completed, anyone else have this issue?

[Djursner20]

Attempting to do the quest chain for the Libram of Furious Blows, but the pre-quest Vision of air is bugged and cannot be completed, anyone else have this issue?

I never did any prequest. I just walked up to the gnome and escorted him.

[taralej]

Tried the BiS list on a target dummy with epic gems and fully enchanted. No flasks, potions or food buffs - just straight-up rotation. Results were 3.8k DPS. Judgements pull ahead by a large margin, Crusader Strike keeps its high position due to the low cooldown, Divine Storm is very low, Exorcism hits hard but is limited by the cooldown, basically the seal and its interactions make up for 45-50% of the DPS.

As a side note, the Dalaran str ring is not on the vendors so I took Surge-Needle and used expertise enchant on gloves... Also, had to use the CS libram.

[Djursner20]

Hey man, could you please also create a BiS list for Ulduar? :)

[Silveryzx]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Ret tier 8 bis based on old ej posts. linked source aswell!

greetings, sherry

[ThisIsNova]

I have to make a small correctionto your list.

Instead of kirin Tor ring, add Surge Needle Ring.
Instead of Bracers of Untelenting Attack use Sinner's bindings.

Those small replacements have pulled to 7167 dps fully raid buffed flask + food.


As about Librams:

Ok, this is the complicated part.
EVERY SINGLE LIBRAM BUFFING A SPELL OF YOURS IS OP.

How to use them?

Make a macro for EACH ability getting buffed by the libram with / equip the respective libram and /cast the abiity.
For Crusader Strike make 2 macros. One wiht the +dmg libram and one with the +120 AP libram.
Use Power Auras to track your AP buff from the libram and you will know when yo use the macro again.
Also use the green Libram on a judgmeent macro.
Also the Ulduar libram is good for a DS macro.

All of these librams, togetehr, will increase your dps by a few hundreds, at least.
This is how I was doing it back then



Good luck adn I hope it helps.

[Mercy]

As about Librams:

Ok, this is the complicated part.
EVERY SINGLE LIBRAM BUFFING A SPELL OF YOURS IS OP.

How to use them?

Make a macro for EACH ability getting buffed by the libram with / equip the respective libram and /cast the abiity.
For Crusader Strike make 2 macros. One wiht the +dmg libram and one with the +120 AP libram.
Use Power Auras to track your AP buff from the libram and you will know when yo use the macro again.
Also use the green Libram on a judgmeent macro.
Also the Ulduar libram is good for a DS macro.

All of these librams, togetehr, will increase your dps by a few hundreds, at least.
This is how I was doing it back then



Good luck adn I hope it helps.

Changing librams incurs a GCD.

[SilverFlash]

Changing librams incurs a GCD.

If he writes a macro correctly,it won't.The only bad thing about the macro(besides being an exploit) that it resets your swing timer.

[Mercy]

If he writes a macro correctly,it won't.The only bad thing about the macro(besides being an exploit) that it resets your swing timer.

That's besides the point. Are you trying to tell me his advice is correct because there's an available exploit? Instead of posting this here, go post it on the bug-tracker please.