WotLK [Guide] Retribution PvE 3.3.5a

[Mercy]

I don't, I use something similar. But Rawr works pretty well for it, yes. You can find my download link for it hosted here on this post: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....17#post2731117

[blubberfat]

Hey guys I could use some advice for my ret pala, this is my current gear http://armory.warmane.com/character/...ecrown/summary
I'm still feeling my dps is lacking and that I can easily be out dpsed by lower gear scores. I was wondering what I can do to improve my damage output (gems, rotation, gear etc) all my gear is gemmed with bold cardinal ruby except for head and chest which have a meta gem and a nightmare tear respectively. Also all my gear is enchanted with the recommended enchants. Thank you in advance.

[Mercy]

"Out-dpsed by lower gear scores" - Other paladins? If you're talking about Warriors, Mages, Rogues, or such, those classes will typically out-perform a Ret.
Aside from swapping a few items out (Gloren for Oathbinder, Winding Sheet for Shadowvault Slayer's Cloak), it looks like your damage is mainly going to be affected by your rotation and divine storm proc RNG. That may be something you want to work on.
Divine Storm > Crusader Strike > Judgment (Put Judgment in 1st slot if you need mana) > Hammer of Wrath > Consecration > Exorcism > Holy Wrath

Resist the urge to use Exorcism ahead of just about anything else. I know it can be tempting, and the up-front damage can look like it will deal more than Consecration, but it's not. Also try to keep your Consecration in positions where it will have 100% up-time. If it won't have 100% up-time, then you can consider using Exorcism instead.

Also try to minimize your time spent not hitting the boss (i.e. doing mechanics). The less time you spend doing that, the better (more dps).

[Avit]

get some nice professions my dude

[Mercy]

Nice observation, knew I was missing something. +1 to that.

[Thydus]

Recommend Engineering and JC or BS

[blubberfat]

Thank you, definitely noted, I updated my rotation and its definitely much better than it was but question, Is the dps difference between Glorernzing and Oathbinder really that substantial? Is it 100% necessary to have Oathbinder? I don't mind making the switch but I was just wondering. Also should I gem [Inscribed Ametrine] in yellow slots cause what i currently have is bold cardinal ruby in all sockets except for nightmare tear and the meta gem. Sorry for all the questions I just want to get the most out of my pala

[Mercy]

I don't recall exact values, but it's a fair amount largely due to how the expertise on Glorenzelg affects your stats and requires you to change glyphs.
Inscribed Ametrines are fine for good socket bonuses (refer to the guide, they are defined there).

[narkishadow]

help me to choose second trinket. my first is http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=42987

for second slot i have:
http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47214
http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50198
http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47734
http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40684

when i rolled for http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47214 dk said i'm noob and ARP not for paladin. I know what ARP not the first priority stat for me, but when I roll for it I looked mostly on 1008 attack for 10 sec. I think http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47214 better than http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40684 because Mirror activates only from crits, what make his uptime worse. I hit-capped, and I don't need http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47734
Scorpion... I don't know, really.
RAWR said me, what with my gear I should buy http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=42990 , and this trinket better than everything else in this list.

What do you think?

[Mercy]

If you need the hit rating, use the Mark of Supremacy. It lines up with Avenging Wrath, so it's pretty good.
If you don't need the hit rating, go for a Banner of Victory.
RAWR results will change with your gear, and ignore the people crying about you wanting a trinket with ARP on it. It's not the ARP you're after, but the proc. Same reason why Sharpened Twilight Scale is best in slot.
Darkmoon Card: Death can serve you decently now, but that will change as your gear changes, and typically it's best to not spend gold on trinkets that will probably have more longevity.

[narkishadow]

Thank you!
Can't check in RAWR, but I think http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50001 better than T9 chest. I don't want to get 4t9 because it's not so impressive, and leather chest gives me a lot of expertise, with it I reach soft cap. But maybe I'm wrong and I should get T9 chest?

[Mercy]

If you need both the hit and the expertise, then use it. If not, then the result is less obvious. However, again, only spend the gold on such items if you have the gold to burn. I'd only advise using gold on buying items if you're absolutely certain it will be an improvement.

[xer0pwnage]

RAWR says Bryntroll HC > Bloodfall HC by nearly 100 dps. But almost every other resource I check puts Bloodfall on top. Any advice from more experienced rets? Using RAWR v2.3.23 btw. Armory is "Colace" if that helps. Thanks!

[Mercy]

The only case when Bryntroll will scale higher is when your stats from the rest of your gear are ****. Make sure you're setting up your gear, talents and buffs properly on RAWR.

[recaptchaaa]

Thank you!
Can't check in RAWR, but I think http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50001 better than T9 chest. I don't want to get 4t9 because it's not so impressive, and leather chest gives me a lot of expertise, with it I reach soft cap. But maybe I'm wrong and I should get T9 chest?

The 2t9 is not impressive either, considering this.