WotLK [Guide] Retribution PvE 3.3.5a

[angrylol]

The 2t9 is not impressive either, considering this.

I don't know what do you mean, but my Righteous Vengeance does approx 30% damage from CS, DS and Jedgement crit total average. Tested it today.

[recaptchaaa]

I don't know what do you mean, but my Righteous Vengeance does approx 30% damage from CS, DS and Jedgement crit total average. Tested it today.

What I mean is that its tick timer resets on refresh. This leads to massive DPS loss.

By the way, the same bug applies to Deep Wounds, Ignite, and Piercing Shots (tested them).

I urge everyone reading this to check the bug ticket and upvote it. I've provided plenty of mathematical proof there.

[Tarumar]

What I mean is that its tick timer resets on refresh. This leads to massive DPS loss.

By the way, the same bug applies to Deep Wounds, Ignite, and Piercing Shots (tested them).

I urge everyone reading this to check the bug ticket and upvote it. I've provided plenty of mathematical proof there.

Upvoted. Indeed thats a huge dps loss.

[angrylol]

Can anyone explain WHERE is that dps loss?

How this works now

Judgement Crits for 15'000
[RV has 4500 damage stored]
1.5sec later
Divine Strorm Crits for 12'000
[RV has 8100(4500+3600) damage stored because it couldn't tick]
1.5sec later
Crusader strike Crits for 9'000
[RV has 10'800(4500+3600+2700) damage stored because it couldn't tick]
2 sec later first tick of RV
RV does 10'800 damage in 4 ticks over 8 secs.

RV did 30%.

Where do you see lost damage?

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Just did 532'166 damage with cs, ds and judge crits

159'649 --- 30% of 532'166
159'480 --- amount of damage RV actually did
234 sec, 73 ticks of RV

[angrylol]

About Seal of Corruption, it ticked every 3 seconds even while stacking - tried to see if timer resets witch each new stack and on 5 stacks resets only duration, but that's not the case. It's a tick every 3 secs.

While doing this I noticed Seal of corruption starts to do its damage before it is stacked to 5, so that's a bug that actually increases damage of it? From tooltip it should start do do weapon damage at 5 stacks, but maybe its meant as example on 5 stacks and does, for example, 1/5th at 1 stack - which seems to be how it works now.

[Mercy]

Seal of Corruption is working as intended last I checked.

[Beanlord]

Seal of Corruption deals damage at any amount of stacks. Read the description carefully. If it is doing "partial" stack damage then it's working as it should be.

[angrylol]

It says "Once stacked to 5 times, each paladins attacks also deals 41% to 42% weapon damage as Holy..."

Text implies it does not do weapon damage til its stacked to 5.

but nvm, if it works then it works. probably I cant catch nuance due to language barrier

[Luccas]

Your PvE BiS list for 3.3.5a isn't correct, STS isn't BiS for retribution paladins, DV and WFS/Tiny Jar, are a better comination. I've tested this many times on a mirrored private server. The one stat on the STS Armor Penetration is wasted on the paladin as it's not viable at all. You actually pull 1k-1.8k more dps with the other trinket combinations. Sadly STS is only a gearscore increase nothing more. But, your weapons listed, I 100% agree with, this is the first thread I've seen that listed Glorenzelg over the Oathbinder and you are 100% correct AGI paladins can not contend with a full STR paladin in BiS perspective.

[komarac9323]

Your PvE BiS list for 3.3.5a isn't correct, STS isn't BiS for retribution paladins, DV and WFS/Tiny Jar, are a better comination. I've tested this many times on a mirrored private server.

Your personal anecdotes on some other server mean absolutely nothing as simulations are the most important thing when deciding best in slot. STS outscales DC at a certain point (you need to check when this happens by simming).

But, your weapons listed, I 100% agree with, this is the first thread I've seen that listed Glorenzelg over the Oathbinder and you are 100% correct AGI paladins can not contend with a full STR paladin in BiS perspective.

you have some comprehension issues as he lists oath over gloren. and a big lol at “BiS perspective” without shadowmourne.

[Ryd3rs]

Some talents can be moved, but all in all, good guide.

[ofnir993]

I don't, I use something similar. But Rawr works pretty well for it, yes. You can find my download link for it hosted here on this post: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....17#post2731117

This may be almost necro-posting, but I will still try.

I downloaded rawr from your link. Problem is I can't find any .exe file. Am I missing something?

This is what I see when I unzip the file:
https://i.imgur.com/3dYjyKH.png

And this is what there is inside the .rar inside the sourcecode folder:
https://i.imgur.com/6ycfPJf.png

If I click on version 6.0 for instance, I can't see a Rawr.exe, there is only the icon:
https://i.imgur.com/s8v4W07.png

What am I supposed to do? When looking at tutorials on youtube they always click on a .exe file and then the program starts running.
In fact, in the readme it states "There's no installer for Rawr. Just unzip the zip anywhere you like, that you have full permissions to (that means NOT Program Files on Vista+), and run Rawr.exe. (If you have any concern about Rawr doing anything malicious, the full source code is available at http://rawr.codeplex.com/ for you to review and/or to build yourself)" but can't seem to find that file.

[Mercy]

Strange. Well, instead of messing with all that, I'll just give you a google drive link of my own copy.
Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H1v...ew?usp=sharing

[ofnir993]

Strange. Well, instead of messing with all that, I'll just give you a google drive link of my own copy.
Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H1v...ew?usp=sharing

Tyvm, it works!

[ofnir993]

Question: I see lots of paladins go with Valithria 25hc mail gloves as offset instead of Fleshrending Gauntlets. Are they better because of some warmane bug of sort?