1. Hello, dears!

    Does this guide still works? I`m looking for infos about Blood and Unholly PvP builds =P

  2. Hello, dears!

    Does this guide still works? I`m looking for infos about Blood and Unholly PvP builds =P
    It's very outdated, when I made this guide was so that I would learn how to play blood again whenever I returned playing WotLK. It's been 2 years or so since last time I logged in

    casino
    Edited: August 26, 2022

  3. Thanks!

    I will try burst an unholly build for PvP, the drop damage using death strike instead scourge strike is not as large as i thought ... Ill try some combinations ^^

    =P

  4. May 25, 2019  
    I would like to join the discussion of why is blood equal to Unholy in arenas, depends on situation ofc where one Can be better or worse than other.

    Cons:
    NO IMMUNITY TO DISPELS (BAD, big oopsie, but still 30% chance to resist, no big deal against two dps)
    No Gnaw 3s stun
    No infinite Ghoul that has anyway 0% ARP benefit
    No Ebon Plaguebringer 12% spell dmg for spell partner

    Pros:
    20% dmg and 10% attack power for warrs bladestorm (lethal)
    Blood tap 20-16% every 30-40s
    Will od necropolis (good for sustain when you are low resil 100% arp)

    Equals:
    Bone shield - vampiric blood
    AMZ-mark od blood for Hunter, rog
    Improved AntiMS 6% - spell parry (rare, optional, but still its an equal, do your math)
    Gargoyle burst - working DRW burst
    Deceased ground - Glyph of BS

    Problem with healers dispelling your dots? Burst them with buffed bladestorm, DRW and 3 sec silence. Reduced healing from mortal will secure it. They are dead or their friend is. Simply beat the bastards down.

    Build 53/11/7: https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#jciRqR0I...gozZcbM:upI0mz
    Improved death grip
    Lichborne (no need pale horse), op vs rogue sap (but pop it when arena starts, then botch charge on 1 enemy), partner warr or rogue unsappable, you can freely kill enemy. Easy. OP.
    No blood cake or death coils tho.. but building death coil dmg instead of pure physical pene build isnt worth compared to this build. But I miss the Blood Cake :c adds like 15% to your auto attacks.

    DRW doubles the diseases therefore DS will heal for more than just 15%... Muuuuuch moore. And crits from HS are at fresh 5600gs char in blackrock over 5k, against no resil even 8k

    I believe that getting 100% ARP equip for underdog spec is hard one of main reasons why people do not play blood, (as the WOTLK expansion still plays only a medium-small comunity of conservative players) Also they are highly discouridged by loud Unholy players and whole dispel thing. I dont know any other reasons, if I missed any, please Unholy community, tell me your arguments with explanations and counterweights. I personally really want to know. (Arena statistics are not wellcomed argument, you wont see me replay ,,Touché")

    But my messenge is: take blood as fun, Unique and durable furry Warrior, not as diafunctional crap only viable for BGs, tho fury probably aint viable for arenas as well, hahaha
    Edited: May 25, 2019

  5. May 25, 2019  
    Its worse in arena. Simple as that. :)

    P.S.1 Just passing by the forums, dont mind me.
    P.S.2 I have nothing against Blood in arenas or something similar, and i know there are situations in which Blood is better than Unholy, but arena is not one of them and you cant say its EQUAL, its not. If you want to play it for "Fun" do it, but again, its not equal, its worse, for arenas.

  6. May 25, 2019  
    Its worse in arena. Simple as that. :)

    P.S.1 Just passing by the forums, dont mind me.
    P.S.2 I have nothing against Blood in arenas or something similar, and i know there are situations in which Blood is better than Unholy, but arena is not one of them and you cant say its EQUAL, its not. If you want to play it for "Fun" do it, but again, its not equal, its worse, for arenas.
    You can combo it with something different. You simply cant imagine same gameplay with Blood Death Knight as you have with Unholy. Unholy has higher chances of not getting kited but instead TO KITE, It simply doesnt matter to me, Unholy is like good partner to spellers (ebon plaguebringer 12% spell dmg), I forgot to mention that in my thread and Im adding it, but if you would like to go hard as a mother****er combo with physical DPS, you can work it out because he can support you as you support him. For instance Hunter would make amazing partner with his Healing reduction and unending slow, especially around objects. + Unholy are vulnerable to disarms meanwhile Blood has significally higher chance of surviving it but is good against attacking rogue thanks to stun Gnaw. Simply I believe they are equal because how good they can handle different situations. But unholy is mainstream-easy to get eq build that supports full pvp eq, instead of stealing preciouis warrior gear... so no worries that statistics will hurt my ashole.
    Edited: May 25, 2019

  7. May 25, 2019  
    I'd imagine a blood DK works best with a gear setup which is similiar to the one of Arms warr.
    5/5 wrath set and lots of agi offparts with Arp while maintaining around 1k resilience.

    Might work well together with prot warr in 2s. DRW paired with hysteria while the target is kept in stun lock by the prot warr. Should be possible to burst one or the other healer down with that comb.
    Nontheless blood is the weakest out of the 3 DK specs.

  8. May 25, 2019  
    I'd imagine a blood DK works best with a gear setup which is similiar to the one of Arms warr.
    5/5 wrath set and lots of agi offparts with Arp while maintaining around 1k resilience.

    Might work well together with prot warr in 2s. DRW paired with hysteria while the target is kept in stun lock by the prot warr. Should be possible to burst one or the other healer down with that comb.
    Nontheless blood is the weakest out of the 3 DK specs.
    True, probably compared in PVE - unholy is the highest DPS (but I havent seen too much blood dps). In PvP there are other factors. Each spec is different, Frost lacks power to heal as the DS are the weakest, it only focuses on temporary sustain and slow.

    And No. You dont need all that "agi" offparts, I counted it and you can have in bis 100% ARP with strength stats and still aim for like 800-900 resil... (without Executioner enchant, as Fallen Crusader is much more crucial) Also depends if you wanna aim for 2xT10.5 and 2xWrath or 4xWrath... the runic power is good if you are kited way too much and T10.5 head, shoulder and chest grants ARP and so does many other offparts n rings. You probably want 1 Wrathful ring since it gives you 60 hit and 60 resil and you need to focus on Hit cap 5% as well (as some spell pene from cloak and 1 blue gem)

  9. May 27, 2019  
    True, probably compared in PVE - unholy is the highest DPS (but I havent seen too much blood dps).
    My whole post is about PvP so it should be obvious that I mean that blood is the weakest DK spec in PvP.
    That Unholy is the best DK spec in PvP should be obvious.
    Frost suffers a bit in the highend gear meta but is still very viable in 2s with hpala. On AT/Blackrock Frost was several times rank1 in 2s and also in 3s with turtlecleave.
    A Blood DK never achieved anything in the competitive play that would be worth mentioning. It's good in duels but thats pretty much it.
    And No. You dont need all that "agi" offparts
    Blood dk has more or less the same stat priority like a arms warr. Even the crit value granted by agi is equal to the one of a warrior.
    Thus it should be worth to take items such as http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50670, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47545 and http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50618 in consideration.
    Also depends if you wanna aim for 2xT10.5
    Why would you want to get that?
    Compared to the PvP counterparts HC offparts have a significant higher ilvl difference than T10,5.
    Increasing the dmg of hearthstrike by 7% doesn't look like a big deal when you don't even have 3/3 death rune mastery.
    Edited: May 27, 2019

  10. My whole post is about PvP so it should be obvious that I mean that blood is the weakest DK spec in PvP.
    That Unholy is the best DK spec in PvP should be obvious.
    Frost suffers a bit in the highend gear meta but is still very viable in 2s with hpala. On AT/Blackrock Frost was several times rank1 in 2s and also in 3s with turtlecleave.
    A Blood DK never achieved anything in the competitive play that would be worth mentioning. It's good in duels but thats pretty much it.

    Blood dk has more or less the same stat priority like a arms warr. Even the crit value granted by agi is equal to the one of a warrior.
    Thus it should be worth to take items such as http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50670, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47545 and http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50618 in consideration.

    Why would you want to get that?
    Compared to the PvP counterparts HC offparts have a significant higher ilvl difference than T10,5.
    Increasing the dmg of hearthstrike by 7% doesn't look like a big deal when you don't even have 3/3 death rune mastery.
    Its 9% and HC 10.5 are equal to hc offparts

    about the agi u might be right but u would lose precious armor, but probably okay..

    as the pvp ranks its not optimal, but can counter so much. especially with physical dmg combo as sub rogue


  11. Only crit gems are "oh boi..." in this thread? oh boi...

  12. Only crit gems are "oh boi..." in this thread? oh boi...
    You're also a dwarf, oh boi :p



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