Are we talking about Icy Talons or Improved Icy Talons?
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It should stack with WF. I kinda fail to see why it wouldn`t, seeing as it stacks with IIT already which is classified as the same buff
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Icy Talons = Windfury Totem, same as 10% Atk power auras. 40% melee haste would be just too much for some classes.
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http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=55610 = http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=65990 + http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=29193
^ This would be correct.
However,
http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=50887 !!= http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=65990 + http://wotlk.openwow.com/spell=29193
^ These DO stack.
All speccing out of Improved Icy Talons would do, while in a group with a proper Enhancement Shaman, is save a talent point. Which I imagine the person is interested in putting somewhere else. It doesn't make anyone more OP than what they already are, since the only person that would be getting both haste buffs would be the DK.Edited: June 10, 2016
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it != iit
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Yes, I misunderstood, I'm using Icy Talons + Imp Icy talons from another DK or WF with my blood tank, and unholy dps. That is the good stuff.
Btw bonus 5% melee haste from imp talons is nice too for that one talent point.
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Yeah, it is. The talent is always worth taking for Frost, regardless of raid buff setup.
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Any new theories about Unholy PvE?
I start to notice more of Unholy running around, but never really seen anyone doing competitive DPS.
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ghoul scaling is broken af
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What do you call competitive?
Royal Bloodline has several UH Dks pushing 18-20k dps on DBS, being top melee on PP/Sindra and also finishing top dps on LK. DBS dps is pretty constant, PP/Sindra/LK vary for obvious reasons. Still pretty consistent.
http://armory.warmane.com/character/Tugsu/Icecrown/
http://armory.warmane.com/character/Papertank/Icecrown/
http://armory.warmane.com/character/Benqt/Icecrown/
Damage might be. Unlike some times ago it does survive almost everything and my ghoul usually lasts for the whole ICC run except LDW if mced people kill it (and they tend to kill pets like crazy atm.).Edited: July 5, 2016
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cuz their aoe is stronk on lk, just like fury warrs spamming cleaves on ph1.
and about ghoul - max i got was 5% of my total dps - its not even funny
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Ghoul DPS should make up for around 10-15% of UDK's total DPS. It doesn't, so this pretty much means that UDK DPS is ~10% lower than what it should be. And that's without even delving into Scourge Strike scaling, gargoyle damage and Blood-Caked Blade damage, neither of which I am sure work properly.
And pls don't show me any DPS numbers for MDPS, unless it's Festergut - that is THE ONLY fight in ICC where MDPS can compete on single-target DPS.
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Why is glyph of disease not a good idea for single target? As i see you can refresh your dots using a single blood rune and dish out more scourge strikes.
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Because IT + PS + BS outdamage SS.
@Bensten - from the 3 DKs you showed me, one was in PvP gear, the other one was Frost str gemmed, the last one is a full BiS donor with Smourne. Tugsu's glyphs and talents are bad. The donor's talents are wrong too, but at least he has the correct glyphs. Neither of them is a good example for DPS. But then again there is a reason I've never wanted to join that guild :DEdited: July 5, 2016
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