WotLK BiS weapons for fury non-donor?

[TheRossoneriGuy]

Alright, thank you guys for your responses! I guess my last question would be what should i drop from my talent tree to get Precision? I've got 4 points on Unbridled Wrath and 5 on Enrage, the rest is just the usual. 18/53/0

[Panofsky]

Shadow's Edge is a waste of vote points since it's the easiest weapon you can obtain in the game just by buying/farming primordial saronites.

That being said, Glorenzelg normal + Shadow's Edge is best weapon combination to start with but don't buy the Shadow's Edge, save your vote points for something which is really worthy, like a good trinket (Sharpened Twilight Scale normal version is best choice).

As far as you progress in the ICC raid, the best weapon combination for a non donor is Glorenzelg heroic + Cryptmaker heroic. With this weapon combo you will easily reach the expertise cap just by equipping your t10 heroic legs and the hit cap with a single +20hit gem (since you will go for Aldriana's gloves, which are bis for fury warrior). Warmace of menethil is far from being bis weapon.

About the spec question: http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#Lhrc0fhZGxcoqcu0eRVzAo

[Selaya]

Warmace is just as good as Cryptmaker, if not better. You don`t ever need the hit on it, you would have to try real hard and pass on a third of all drops to have no Hit at all on anything but that your AV ring.
The good news is that overhit isn`t all wasted for a Fury warrior, but it`s still a quite garbage stat past the 5% cap.

[Panofsky]

Warmace is just as good as Cryptmaker, if not better. You don`t ever need the hit on it, you would have to try real hard and pass on a third of all drops to have no Hit at all on anything but that your AV ring.
The good news is that overhit isn`t all wasted for a Fury warrior, but it`s still a quite garbage stat past the 5% cap.

Wrong. The only bis item which increases hit rating is the Ashen Verdict ring. When you use the Glorenzelg + Cryptmaker combo you replace the http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54578 with the http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50639.

Warmace of menethil is inferior to Cryptmaker because it has lower stats and base damage.

[Selaya]

> implying this is a fullbis discussion

[Mercy]

I've been observing this thread, and I feel I should comment to support Panofsky here.

http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=51946
http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50603

Cryptmaker has more strength, armor pen and weapon damage. Any good warrior knows that weapon damage is paramount.

That said, I also wanted to comment on the subject of "overhit". Generally speaking, yes, it is considered a "dps loss" to over-cap hit. But this doesn't apply in the same fashion as it does all other dual wield classes & specs. While less missed dual wield autos is a "gain", none of the other dual wielders have their resource management directly tied to their auto-attacks. For someone who is "gearing up", their rage generation is not going to be that of a full BiS warrior - they are going to need all the extra rage they can get. Being rage starved is not only the worst feeling in the world, but it is, by far, the biggest dps loss to the class.

[Panofsky]

> implying this is a fullbis discussion

So tell me which drop he should pass on while progressing trough ICC. I'm curious.

[Selaya]

hmmm
gunship bracers, ldw neck lmw ring (agi) ldw belt (agi 10s) rs25 boots
wodins
and thats not even counting all the garbage (ex lansouls) which can still be an upgrade while gearing up

[Panofsky]

hmmm
gunship bracers, ldw neck lmw ring (agi) ldw belt (agi 10s) rs25 boots
wodins
and thats not even counting all the garbage (ex lansouls) which can still be an upgrade while gearing up

Replaced by:
- http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50670
- http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50618
- http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=50620
- http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=54581

I've already told you about the boots change. Equipping any of the items listed by you would mean to steal them to other classes/specs which find them more useful, like rogues or retribution paladins.

[Selaya]

have you ever geared up a toon, you cant just wish/wait for all the optimal drops you know

[Panofsky]

have you ever geared up a toon, you cant just wish/wait for all the optimal drops you know

Yes I did, without the need to roll for those items, even when I joined pug raids, because I knew the class I was playing with. The only reason you may roll for those items is to increase your gearscore, which is the most stupid thing you can do.

[Selaya]

Then you do not know how to gear up.

[Panofsky]

Then you do not know how to gear up.

I need no lessons from someone who consider warmace of menethil a bis weapon for fury warriors.

[Selaya]

> implying this is a fullbis discussion

funfact: a true non-smourne bislist would use double gloren and northern lights

[Beanlord]

I need no lessons from someone who consider warmace of menethil a bis weapon for fury warriors.

Implying Sela actually said such a thing.