1. I actually have no dedication to earn achievement points now. I will not be voting anymore either.


  2. Mrw people think that nearly the best items in the game should be accessible for basically no effort at all. no offenserino pls just a prank bro

    Real talk though, while it was an extreme luxury for those who have already gone through the PVE content literally hundreds of times to obtain items of such caliber, it was not healthy nor fair to hand out such powerful components for people who literally have no experience with the instance or the encounter. As a long time raider, I am definitely happy more than sad for the loss of such items. It is, in my opinion, a fine change to the server when it comes to the grand scheme of things and I've always endorsed a certain level of fair game (which is why I'd dare to say that the coin shop is also overloaded by a great margin but that is a whole another field of discussion).

    It's necessary to remember that there are quite a few decent PVE guilds on Icecrown as of now (and at least 4 of those guilds are extremely devoted towards domination of the end-game content) which means you can always find a place of your own in the community if you've been playing for a while and already bear some sort of PVE-related experience. If, on the other hand, a player has no actual experience of raiding and/or he/she is new to this expansion, it is necessary to remember that their overall understanding of this game is limited, nearly inexistent, in every single form, especially if there is no one helping out. Stat priority, itemization, world mechanics (classes, boss fights, general game mechanics etc.) are the things which should be learned at least to the minimal extent. Being casual is no excuse when it comes to this particular field, if you are willing to go out there and get a certain item which is nearly best in slot, you better know how to deal with the fight (while handling your class) which actually offers that loot.

    The shop change makes you learn how to play this game, not just come here to wait for 30 days to get an item which is going to amplify the game experience drastically in both PVE and PVP. To be completely honest, this change hurts those who have already gone through the PVE end-game content countless times on their main+alt characters and at the same time is going to encourage the newer players to actually try harder for the items they wish to obtain. It is ultimately a change towards the proper balance.

  3. well yea vote shop is useless now, no mounts, no pets, only gear for beginners (for those who dont know that these items are bad af ;D
    will vote for name change/ faction change atleast

  4. These changes are perfect for the new players. They won't have to go through the process of gearing for too long (if they desire to advance quickly) but will be able to obtain similar (but not close stats-wise) to BiS items or items which are really good in general for new characters (for example http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45518 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45609 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45535 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45613 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45470 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45587 and so on).

  5. ye ye really usefull for PvP too wohooo what is this 2009? rofl

  6. ye ye really usefull for PvP too wohooo what is this 2009? rofl
    You can get an item for every item slot with nothing but PVP, so I really don't see what's the problem. If PvE endgame gear is that important to you, you either raid or donate. Simple as that. Also, there are items in new point shop which can be used in high rated PvP, you don't need CTS or something like that to reach 1950 for helm.

  7. Bring back mounts and pets etc. for points. Won't be overpowered since they give no power to players at all, just cosmetic stuff.

  8. Bring back mounts and pets etc. for points. Won't be overpowered since they give no power to players at all, just cosmetic stuff.
    Yeah Bring back those cool things back,ppls request

  9. Bring back mounts and pets etc. for points. Won't be overpowered since they give no power to players at all, just cosmetic stuff.
    I agree with this, but who cares. The VP market is trash now.

  10. These changes are perfect for the new players. They won't have to go through the process of gearing for too long (if they desire to advance quickly) but will be able to obtain similar (but not close stats-wise) to BiS items or items which are really good in general for new characters (for example http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45518 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45609 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45535 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45613 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45470 / http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45587 and so on).
    actually those items were BiS on their era :)
    anyway, it's nice now we're going to see many variety type of different BiS items instead of every one wearing the same ICC armors/weapons/sets

    I'm gonna save points for http://wotlk.openwow.com/item=45587 looks awesome
    Edited: October 24, 2016 Reason: fix

  11. hahah XD collect point everyday for items 239 ilvl hahah no thx

  12. Points: 21.9 collecting soo much time to get 1 trinkcet and they dont give ppl change to spend this points!! One guy say "How about we put a new option outthere for everyone's condideration, and that is ~30 days before the point shop changes. I think its only fair to everyone, because 9/10 people will still be missing a point or 2 for the item - these 3 days will only change who it's gonna be. 30 days so everyone can finish their last item, but can't start a new one" i think 99% of the players will aggre with that.
    P.S. Sorry for my bad english!

  13. Points: 21.9 collecting soo much time to get 1 trinkcet and they dont give ppl change to spend this points!! One guy say "How about we put a new option outthere for everyone's condideration, and that is ~30 days before the point shop changes. I think its only fair to everyone, because 9/10 people will still be missing a point or 2 for the item - these 3 days will only change who it's gonna be. 30 days so everyone can finish their last item, but can't start a new one" i think 99% of the players will aggre with that.
    P.S. Sorry for my bad english!
    100% could agree, wouldn't change anything. what's done is done.

  14. wow pvp is a meme anyway dont know why people bring it up like its something important

    its all about pve and people will now get the items we got 3 years ago, that hard mode ulduar which is good since it makes you ready to ToC

    and they even halved the amount of points so a ilvl239 item for 15 points is good

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