1. 1) As the talent says itself, read it and it will all be clear. All the DMG that would take you below and/or all dmg taken below 35%.
    The more i read that talent the less i understand it, "Damage that would take you below 35% health or taken while you are at 35% health is reduced by 15%." Which leads me to believe that if ur under 35% hp dmg reduction will no longer take effect, you have to be exactly at 35% or over for it to trigger.
    Also as per last changelog :
    "Fixed Will of the Necropolis triggering even when dk is already below 35% health report #43636"
    Its still a great talent anyways but just want to be sure of how its working now, someone care to confirm, ty.

  2. Its working as the fix says:
    "Fixed Will of the Necropolis triggering even when dk is already below 35% health"
    On top of:
    "Damage that would take you below 35% health or taken while you are at 35% health is reduced by 15%.".
    Regardless, even if it worked just like:
    "Reduces the damage that would take you below 35% by 15%." It would still be worth it.

    Too many questions about stuff that dont have replacements, that can be tested by players (dueling a spellcaster and making him hit u with the same spell above, at, below 35%, just like i did), and so on...

    To become a better player you need to stop being spoon fed with information you can check yourself.

  3. Good day!
    I was thinking about going frost spec tank. And i've got some questions to ask.
    This build: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0EZhgcxIrhzc0fuhAo0x
    1) Is that true that dual-wield frost dk is comparable to warrior tank playstyle?
    2) Is the build with [Improved Frost presence] 2/2 and with [Veteran of the Third War] 3/3 is capable of pulling more max health than regular blood dk build? And if it is capable of pulling more max HP then is it possible to go that way? Won't there be too many difficulties?
    3) Is it possible to do ICC25HC as a Frost dual-wield tank? (with near BIS healers)

  4. There is no reason for you to go so deep in Frost tree.
    There is no reason for you to go Dual-Wielding when you can just go Two-Handed mode and have a lot of more talent options for something else than Threat for Thassarian and Nerves of Cold Steel.
    There is no reason for you to go Unbreakable Armor over Vampiric Blood.

    The only reason why would someone go for DW Frost Talent tree is roleplay.

    Blood is a lot better for all game segments and all WotLK Bosses.
    If you are confident in your Aggro: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...VMhzZ0b:pihmM0
    If you want more TPS: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...xbxVMcz:pimmM0
    If you want more AoE threat: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...x0MZ0xh:piomM0

    Anything else will just be a meme or "fun" spec.

  5. Ok, thanks alot, Gnimo.
    But you didnt answer the question :( - is it possible to do ICC25hc with "fun DW frost spec"?

  6. You can Tank ICC 25m hc with: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...uhVo0gb:opm0mM
    If you have Healers that will carry your weak spec, another tank that will make up for your **** ups, you can tank anything.

    You can also DPS as a Rogue with this spec: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#f0x...dqzAcRt:MApVcM
    And have other DPS carry your sorry excuse for a raid spot.

    If you outgear the content you can do it without even speccing into anything.
    Its not the matter of can you do it, its the matter of if that spec is the best for your group.
    Any 5, 10, 25m dungeon is a GROUP of people, and you build ur character to fit that grp best way possible, sure you can go for some meme "fun" spec builds and "make them work" but in the end, your performance would be better with the meta spec for that class, which in this case is ALWAYS Blood spec.

    I will give you the truth, if you dont like what you are hearing, there are a lot of other threads and guides where you might get something like:
    "You can tank anything with any spec, play whats fun for you."

    For me, performing good and helping the raid to clear stuff faster is fun.
    With Blood you can actually survive so many tough spots which frost DW never will.
    But in the end, i saw so many monkey specs on DK tanks all around this server, so idc what you decide to go for.
    I told u what will be the best option for you and your grp, rest is on you to decide.


  7. Hey Gnimo. Yesterday I was in Voa 25 when guy accidentally invited 3 tanks including me. Since they are better geared, leader told me to dps. I don't have dps os, and he told me to just stay blood presence and should be fine. So I was wondering, since you are experienced dk, do you have os dps on your tank ?

    I pug a lot and I want to be able to still be useful if more geared tank arrives. So further questions are...

    - My blood spec has double aura. Is it worth keeping auras for dps increase of other raid members, or going into dps spec with less optimized gear ?
    - What spec would perform better with tanking gear ? I've read both dps guides, and they all need strength, which is stat that is commonly found on tanking gear.
    - Do you have tanking spec both for ms and os ? I used to have blood and deep frost, so I can see which one I like more, but since I raid on weekly basics now it's mainly blood.

    I mainly do rdf hc a day, and icc both 10 and 25 alt runs for some eofs and drops. My goal is not bis for this character. Just T10 as a tank. Also I can roll os on some items and get some along while in dungeons, but my dps gear investment wont go over a sigil, flask, trinket and maybe T9 head with meta socket. I have marrowgar icc 10 sword, so my chances of getting better, second or other weapons are slim since people I raid with need that gear too.

    What are your thoughts ? How would you deal with this situation ?
    Thanks.

  8. You should not make a spec that will cover for 1 in a 100k raids situations, where raid leader fails and invs 3 tanks instead of 2.
    If that happens, just dps the best you can with your aura spec and be ready to help out in case tanks die.

    As for your questions if you should get an offspec DPS or not, if you dont have DPS gear, you shouldnt get DPS off spec.
    If you want to tank only, i would suggest going for 2 tanking specs, 1 for RDF farm, 1 for Raids.
    Anything else will be useless if u ask me.

    Your raid spec should look like this:
    https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...xbxVMhz:pimM0V
    Double Aura with maximised threat for extra Death Strikes.

    Your RDF farm spec can be eather "Dungeon Hero" spec from the guide, or even this:
    https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...zZ0xG0x:oqhM0V
    This spec is a perfect example of DK being able to tank anything with any spec. It will maximise the DMG from your white swings which will increase ur threat. It also has the talents to max out DnD dmg without sacrificing other stuff, so i guess its perfect for dungeons.

    If you want, you might aswell just go:
    https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...00bZ0xh:oqhM0V
    If you notice that Necrosis is not doing dmg at all, especially if it doesnt proc when you hit Rune Strike (since i didnt test out this spec).
    Sure, you lose an extra def CD with this spec (Vampiric Blood) but for RDF you kinda dont need anything else exept Icebound and AMS.

    I really dont know what is the problem when it comes to DK tank and specs.
    Its so straightforward its painfull to see all these meta breaking wana be specs.

    Blade Barrier is a must.
    Improved IT and Toughness is a must.
    Improved Rune Tap is a must. With that, getting Veteran of the Third War is easy, so there is no reason not to get that extra Stamina, Strength and Expertise.
    Will of the Necropolis is a must for raids.
    2/3 Spell Deflection is great for fighting Dragons and any kind of big AoE or Cone Effect magical dmg burst from bosses.
    Frost Tree should always look like this: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#jZhxbxcMh
    If you are pugging, 20% Melee Haste aura is a great bonus for the raid.
    If you are in a guild that has a FDK in the raid grp 100% of the time, skip the talent.
    After that u eather go for more Avoidance in Unholy (if you are confident in your aggro): https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...obsZhxbxcMhZ0x
    or Heart Strike and more threat: https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...bobsoZhxbxVMhz (Improved Icy Talons will increase the Threat regardless of having another FDK in the raid or not, since it gives you passive 5%).

    Anything else you want to go for, exept these talents, will result in more wasted talents than gained.
    These builds give you the most amount of Threat and self healing with awesome CDs, and nothing else will do a better job than them.
    If you want to meme and be a meta breaker, or play some spec cos its so much more "fun" than this one, than go for w/e u want tbh...
    U might just aswell go for a perfectly balanced spec:
    https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...xLxmMZMxGcx00L
    Like all things should be (jk missing 1 talent point for 24/24/24).

    Edit:
    Even this can be a legit spec, especially if you are not getting dropped down below 35% HP that often:
    https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#j0E...VMhk00b:pihV0M
    So if you want to feel special, its better to go with this than to get something like a DW tank or Unholy tank or deep blood tree tank...
    Edited: November 27, 2018 Reason: "edit"

  9. Hey Gnimo, ¿which race is the most optimal for blood tank in the horde ?, On the other hand I wanted to ask you about the defense cap, many people tell me that the cap for ICC 25 minimum is 600 and HC is 620+. ¿It is true?

  10. Hey Gnimo, ¿which race is the most optimal for blood tank in the horde ?, On the other hand I wanted to ask you about the defense cap, many people tell me that the cap for ICC 25 minimum is 600 and HC is 620+. ¿It is true?
    I am not gnimo, but i think, I can help you ;). As for the race, in horde for tanking, from personal experience blood elf would be mostly on top for pve tanking. due to his spell resistance, silence can come handy too.
    Now Taurens have two things, they have increased health for a little, but not enough to make your life eassyer as tank, they have improved nature resist (not really much needed inside icc encounters), only aoe stun is something that may help you a little at aoe tanking.
    Undead have shadow resistance, which is always good to have, but i would say it can not compare to blood elf's magic resistance, undeads beside that can remove sleep, charm and feer, but none of that is really mandatory for a tank, neither will it be useful, same for orc's stun resistance.
    Orcs/Troll I will put them togethere. Their racials can nicely improve threat. It can come handy, but it won't make some big impact, specially not in end game encounters, there will be bunch of md's tot's for aoe fights, and due to dk's enormous single target threat, you don't really need additional threat generating abilities.
    SO all in all, as for racials, i would suggest you to pick a b-elf. *Note: B-elf's improved dk voice, is just awesome too!
    But in the end, no matter what racial you get, it won't make difference between alive and killed death knight.
    As for Def cap. HELL NO. Someone has been lying to you, or they don't have idea what they are talking about. For icc normals minimum is 540 defense (don't confuse it with defense rating).

  11. Human > Glorenzelg
    Draenei > Bryntroll / Glorenzelg
    Dwarf > Cryptmaker / Double Milthrios
    Night Elf > if u want 2% extra miss chance, should go for Glorenzelg aswell

    Tauren > Glorenzelg / Cryptmaker
    Orc > Bryntroll
    Blood Elf is meh, since its 2% chance to get missed by a spell, and there are no spells that can oneshot u, which otherwise wouldnt if u wer Blood Elf.

    Def cap is 540 for everything in wotlk.

  12. Hey Gnimo, ¿which race is the most optimal for blood tank in the horde ?, On the other hand I wanted to ask you about the defense cap, many people tell me that the cap for ICC 25 minimum is 600 and HC is 620+. ¿It is true?
    The defense cap is 540, no more. This is the point, when mobs will not land critical hits on you.
    For the races:
    • orc has extra expertise with axes (Bryntroll) and some extra power-boost racial, which is good for aggro.
    • tauren has extra HP pool, and a stun for non-boss adds
    • belf has something with spell resist, like the hit chance of spells are reduced with 1% on them. An area silence and with this a minor runic power gain
    • troll is kinda useless
    • undead has a similar "resistance" as a belf does, but it is 2% less chance to be hit by shadow spells, also can remove fear

    I would say, for tanking tauren or orc are your best bet. Maybe belf or undead, since they have racials, which are not completely useless.

  13. In the dwarf itemization list you posted 2. One with double Mithrios and one with cryptmaker.

    1) Double Mithrios talent spec? since I haven't seen a deep frost spec with dual wield posted somewhere (might have missed it)
    2) Why Cryptmaker over Glorenzelg?

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