1. May 17, 2017  
    Warrior takes quite a bit of skill to be honest if you dont know what you're doing you're gonna get kited for days
    - No Charge while in combat
    - Your only mobility once in combat is Intercept which has a hefty CD and a rage cost aside from that you have Intervene which can only be used on allies
    - The TBC Warrior has almost nothing in common with the Warrior of the modern age
    - Shield Wall , Recklessness and Retaliation all have 30 MIN CD yes half an hour CD so use em wisely
    - Stance Dancing is something you need to know how to do although there are probably plenty of guides by now on "How to"

    TIPs
    - Go Mace Spec in PvP you will need all the CC you can get believe me
    - Go for the Improved Hamstring Talent same reason as above
    - Go for the Last Stand talent - You dont have Enraged Regeneration also Shield Wall and Retaliation are on huge CDs you will need all the defensives you can get
    - Dont Dedicate to one talent tree the beauty of TBC is that you can really build your own character the way you want them for example my build in TBC for the longest time looked like this http://calculators.iradei.eu/talents...00000000000000 - I really hated fighting Rogues thus this specific build but alot of the talents are interchangleable
    35/14/12.....my eyes are bleeding...

  2. May 17, 2017  
    35/14/12.....my eyes are bleeding...
    yes that spec is kinda LOL

    http://i.imgur.com/l9X1BZQ.png

    http://i.imgur.com/Glcid2j.png

    i like this 2.
    Edited: May 17, 2017

  3. May 17, 2017  
    :D You are free to disagree but its what Ive run and probably run again if the Rogues are more than the Mages

  4. May 17, 2017  
    Seen the second one quite often on retail back in the day. In arena

  5. May 18, 2017  
    thank you for your infos!
    i still cant realy decide but i got a bit more insight into those classes

    so how about the races?
    what i got so far is

    warr: A-PVP: gnome > human=dwarf > rest
    A-PVE: -
    H-PVP: orc>ud>rest
    H-PVE -

    ret A-PVP:-
    A-PVE: human? (weap spec) > rest
    HPVE/P: belf (only but the overall A/H best option)

  6. May 18, 2017  
    dwarf warri > gnom after the other thread

  7. May 18, 2017  
    dwarf warri > gnom after the other thread
    on sf....on top 20 team, 8 are war gnome, so something mean.

  8. May 19, 2017  
    if it's blizzlike escape artist can resist based on the talent dispelresistance

    all over i think both got advantages and disadvantages...

    sf doesn't stand for high pvp... lots of snake**** around there

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