1. [Guide] Shadow Priest PvE 3.3.5 - Muqq Ensidia


    In this upcoming guide I'll be explaining things you need to know when playing a shadow priest, focusing mostly on stuff that's related to raiding, but what you read here could probably be applied to other areas of the game as well. I'll try to keep things as clean and concise as possible, and if you have any more questions/inquires or just something you're not sure of, feel free to ask me and I'll see if I can answer it for you. I won't respond to things that are already included in this guide, so make sure to read it thoroughly.

    1. Gear & Stats
    2. Gems & Glyphs
    3. Enchants
    4. Spell Priorities
    5. Talents
    6. Addons & Macros
    7. FAQ
    8. Useful Links


    As with all casters, our 3 major stats are spell power, haste rating and critical strike rating. Spirit and Intellect also affect our DPS, just to a lesser extent. Here's a breakdown of the current theoretical value of all stats, normalized to spell power (as of 3.3). 1 point of each stat has the theoretical value of:

    Spell power = 1 spell power
    Critical strike rating = 0.76 spell power
    Haste rating = 0.98 spell power
    Hit rating = 1.88 spell power (when not hit capped)
    Intellect = 0.22 spell power
    Spirit = 0.59 spell power

    When comparing the quality of two different items, you would use the formula: spell power + crit*0.76 + int*0.22 + spirit*0.59 + haste*0.98 + hit*1.88 + sockets = ? It would be tedious to do this for every item, so just hop on over to this thread on the www.shadowpriest.com forums where they've been so kind to already calculate the values for you. As a side note, the current hit cap is 289, which is a number you should be aiming to reach.

    Our good boy Eoy has also written a nice little tool for you to calculate the value of any item not currently present on the list. You can find it at here.


    If you can't reach the hit cap through your normal gear, it might be a good idea to gem for hit rating. Other than that, try to fill your red slots with http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40113 or cheaper versions if you can't afford it. Put http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40155 in yellow slots and http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40133 in blue slots if the socket bonus is worth it (use the formula above if unsure). In general, it's not advisable to gem for hit, so as soon as you've gotten some better equipment, you should try to get the hit from items, rather than gems. As for your choice of a meta gem, there's only one real option, and that's the http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=41285 which gives +21 Critical Strike Rating & +3% Increased Critical Damage. The meta gem requires you to use two blue gems, so make sure to fill that requirement.

    As for glyphs, there are a lot of options for the minor ones, and which ones you use doesn't really matter. I personally use http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=43370, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=43371 and http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=43374.

    When it comes to major glyphs, we have 4 and we switch between Dispersion and Mind Sear glyph depending on the encounter. Generally, if you're not using Mind Sear in an encounter, you should be using the Dispersion glyph. If you're not doing hard modes, it's not really necessary, but even so, there's some encounters where the dispersion glyph can really come to good use. I'll be doing a separate article on some tips & tricks to use in ToGC and ICC heroic, which you can use to your advantage to maximise your performance. Dispersing at the right times is one of them.

    Always: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=42407, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=42415.
    Depending on encounter: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=45753, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=45757.


    Head: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50368 30 Spell Power 20 Critical Strike Rating (Kirin Tor reputation)
    Shoulders: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=44135 24 Spell Power, 15 Critical Strike Rating (Sons of Hodir reputation)
    Cloak: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=47898 23 Haste Rating
    Chest: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=60692 +10 All Stats
    Bracers: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=60767 +30 Spell Power
    Gloves: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=44592 +28 Spell Power
    Pants: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=41602 50 Spell Power, 20 Spirit
    Boots: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=47901 (moving around faster will help you to survive, and in some fights increase your dps substantially or http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=60623.
    Weapon: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=60714 +63 Spell Power or http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=59625 (250 haste rating proc) (1-handers), http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=62948 +81 Spell Power (Staves)

    There's also several profession-specific enchants, such as ring-enchants, cloak enchants, shoulder enchants and various other enhancements. Make use of those where applicable.


    Shadow priests don't have a set rotation, and instead make use of spell priorities, reading the situation, and planning ahead. With 4-set T10 and meeting certain gear-requirements, our spell priorities will change slightly, but I'll go over the basic spell priority list first.

    Opener

    There are many variations on openers to use, but I recommend this one, which is used for both spell priority sequences:

    Vampiric Touch > Devouring Plague > Mind Blast > Mind Flay > Shadow Word: Pain

    Normal spell priority (Non 4-set T10)

    Vampiric Touch > Devouring Plague > Mind Blast > Shadow Word: Pain > Mind Flay

    In other words, make sure to always have Vampiric Touch, Devouring Plague and Shadow Word: Pain up and ticking, while burning Mind Blast on every cooldown. If there's nothing else to do, just Mind Flay, but be sure not to cut off any Mind Flay ticks. If you're in a situation where Mind Blast/Vampiric Touch/DP should be cast after 1.5s, just cast another Mind Flay, even though the target would be without Vampiric Touch for a second.

    4-set T10 spell priority

    Vampiric Touch > Devouring Plague > Shadow Word: Pain > Mind Flay > (Mind Blast after every VT)

    Very similar to the normal spell priority sequence, but with the exception of Mind Blast being semi-dropped. It's important to realize that we're one of the few sources that supply replenishment, so it's still advisable to cast a Mind Blast after each Vampiric Touch to keep it up. This change however, allows us to change our talent spec a bit, which I'll go over further into this guide.

    The most important thing for both spell priorities is to know your ABC's, Always Be Casting. Stopping for
    things to come off cooldown or waiting half a second to get perfect uptime on DOT's will only make your DPS suffer. Make sure that you're not unintentionally cutting off your Mind Flay before the last tick, and don't refresh your dots before the last tick. Recasting a Vampiric Touch 0.2s before the last tick is a
    major damage sink, and really ought to be avoided. With more haste you also have to remember that your casting times get lowered, so even if you usually start refreshing Vampiric Touch when there's 1.3 seconds left, it will be applied much faster with Heroism/Bloodlust, so pay attention to that.

    In encounters with multiple targets, a good shadow priest keeps dots running on all targets simultaneously, or using Mind Sear if the encounter allows it. Additionally, you should only cast Shadow Word: Pain when you have 5/5 stacks of Shadow Weaving, as you will keep rolling this Shadow Word: Pain for the duration of the encounter, unless you refresh it at a later stage. Having applied Shadow Word: Pain with 1/5 Shadow Weaving will lower the damage output of it. Shadow Word: Death should only ever be cast while you're moving. Never use it if you're stationary and DPSing a target.

    Threat

    Threat shouldn't be an issue for shadow priests. When you're about to pull a boss, make sure to fade just before the tank has engaged it, so you can apply dots and mind flay without worrying that you'll pull aggro. These days, with misdirect and a few ToTT's on the tank threat should really not be an issue. Fade is a great spell to have at your disposal when you're aoeing, make sure to use it if tanks got low aggro or if you're quick to mind sear freshly spawned/pulled mobs.

    Consumables

    List of consumables that are good to bring to a raid:

    20x - http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=46376
    60x - http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40212
    60x - http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=40211
    60x - http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=34755 (or any +46sp food. http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=43015 is used normally though)

    Normally, on harder encounters you pre-pot before engaging the boss. Ask the tank that's engaging to do a countdown, and as soon as it reaches 1, use a Potion of Wild Magic and fade, and do your opening sequence. This will allow your potion cooldown to activate, allowing you to use another potion a minute later. The reason for using a Wild Magic at the start is because the crit rating it provides will stay with your Shadow Word: Pain for as long as you keep it up through Mind Flay. Spell Power on the other hand refreshes on each Mind Flay, so there's no way to abuse that to our advantage.

    Further into the fight, you should be using a Potion of Speed to increase your DPS. Make sure not to use it during Bloodlust, as you'll not be able to make use of all the haste you'll have with that combination.


    There are really only two talent-specs that are relevant for PvE. One is the normal cookie-cutter one that most of the shadow priests use, and the other one is the spec tailored for 4-set T10.

    Normal talent spec:
    Spoiler: Show

    Code:
    talent-calc.xml?cid=5&tal=0503203000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000325023051223010323152301351

    4-set T10 talent spec:
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    Code:
    talent-calc.xml?cid=5&tal=0503203100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000325223001223012323152301351

    As you can see, the biggest difference between the two is the exclusion of Improved Mind Blast in the T10 spec. This allows for a bit of flexibility in that particular spec, but I've included the most common T10 spec in this guide. It has the very beneficial 2/2 Imp VE talent, which is great to have in hard modes. It also has Inner Focus and 2 points in threat reduction for good measure.


    There are two addons that all shadow priests should really have. A good dot-tracker and a good castbar addon. As always, a clean UI is also very important, and I think a lot of people overlook that aspect when making their own UI's. Having an addon to keep track of your DPS can be handy, with Recount and Skada being the standard DPS display addons these days.

    Dot trackers: Auracle, ForteXcorcist, ClassTimer, DoTimer.

    There are many addons that can track your dots for you, but I personally recommend
    ForteXcorcist, even though it can be quite annoying to set up.

    Casting bars: Quartz, Gnosis, AZCastbars.

    Quartz seems to be the standard these days, so that's what I'm currently using. As long as the castbar shows the latency on the bar so you can properly time your spells, then it's fine to use.

    As for macros, there's a few that we can make use of. First up are the standard nochanneling macros for Mind Flay and Mind Sear. I wouldn't recommend using the macro for Mind Flay if you have high latency, but even with low latency you'd gain a very small amount of DPS if you would properly time your Mind Flays rather than using the macro. If not, feel free to use the nochanneling macro, it's not much of a dps loss at low latencies anyway. I'd still use the Mind Sear macro though, being lazy can be nice sometimes.

    Regular Mind Flay macro. Let's you spam the Mind Flay key without fear of interrupting it.

    "#showtooltip Mind Flay
    /cast [nochanneling:Mind Flay] Mind Flay"


    Same thing as the macro above, just for Mind Sear.

    "#showtooltip Mind Sear
    /cast [nochanneling:Mind Sear] Mind Sear"


    Standard shadowfiend macro. These days, the pet has shadowcrawl used automatically, but it often waits a second or so before using it, and it also has a small delay before re-using it again. Pressing this macro twice will spawn your fiend and make it use shadowcrawl immediately. I personally don't think it's needed anymore, but feel free to use it anyway if you like.

    "#showtooltip Shadowfiend
    /cast Shadowfiend
    /cast [pet, nomodifier] Shadowcrawl"


    Finally, we have the dispersion cancelling macro. I wouldn't personally try to combine this with a dispersion macro, since you might activate and de-activate dispersion by mistake. This macro has many uses, some of which are tied to certain encounters, but also just a good macro to have bound and ready to be used.

    "/cancelaura Dispersion"


    Q: I don't agree with you on... I think that...
    A: Like I said, this is a subjective guide and I don't expect everyone to agree on every single point I make. In some cases, there's no math or theory to back up some of the stuff I claim, and that's things based on personal experience. If you don't agree with me, that's fine, do what you think is best.

    Q: What haste rating, crit rating or spell power should I aim for before focusing on one of the other stats?
    A: With the current itemization, there's no way to reach the haste cap, nor will you ever be able to get gear that would give you 100% chance to crit all your spells, so just focus on grabbing upgrades to your current gear. As I explained earlier, check the shadowpriest gear-list for possible upgrades, and stick to that when deciding between keeping a current item or upgrading it to another one.

    Q: When should I drop Mind Blast and go with the T10 spell priority sequence?
    A: Generally, once you've gotten 4-set T10, you can start using the spell priority I outlined above. There's a point where dropping Mind Blast will start yielding DPS benefits, and Gromack has some math to find that point. For the lazy people out there, if you have around 5800 gearscore or have started doing heroic 10-man ICC, you're probably good to go with using the T10 spell priority sequence.

    Q: Should I really be dropping Mind Blast completely? Is this 100% proven to yield more DPS?
    A: You shouldn't really, no. In this guide, I explained it in a simple fashion, but reality is, based on your latency and skill, Mind Blast will still be worthwhile casting, even with 4-set T10 and great gear. There's a few reasons where it shine, as for example, it's not channeled, and you can't cancel ticks of it, so you might be able to cast the spell after it faster than for example casting a spell after Mind Flay. You can also use it during other times than just after VT, perhaps to fill gaps where you'd be losing half a second of VT uptime or so. There's a thread here, which you can read to get some more information. Be sure to check Griemaks post.

    Q: Why not Black Magic enchant instead of 63 spell power on 1h, isn't it higher theoretical PP?
    A: Yes it is, but one thing that will always hold true when it comes to performance is consistency. I personally don't like relying on procs, and if there's ways to avoid it with little to no loss, then I take advantage of them. This particular enchant is one of those things, and I'd rather have my constant 63 spell power rather than relying on a proc.

    Q: Why not Icewalker instead of Tuskar's Vitality, isn't it higher DPS?
    A: The answer to this question is somewhat similar to the one above. Minor run speed is a great thing to have when it comes to hard modes, and there's many encounters in Icecrown that require you to be mobile, so your speed matters a lot. Anyone serious about doing heroic Icecrown Citadel should be using Tuskar's Vitality, but that's my personal opinion. If you're not doing heroic modes, you can use whatever suits you best.

    Q: I got good gear, but I'm still not doing too good DPS, what am I doing wrong?
    A: I honestly have no idea. If you stick to the correct spell priority sequence, gear correctly, attain the hit cap then you should be fine to melt faces. If not, you're probably just DOING IT WRONG :(

    Q: Should I be clipping my third Mind Flay tick at some point?
    A: Personally, I wouldn't. There might be a tiny theoretical gain in doing so, but I believe that most players are not capable of clipping it precisely enough to gain the DPS advantage. You might see claims of people doing it, but I discard those as silly tales. Even if you clip it, you might be doing it between the second and third tick rather than just after the second tick. Clipping it before the second tick will outright destroy any kind of DPS gain you got from clipping correctly, several casts would be lost and then some. Really, just don't do it.

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    Thoughts on hastecap (bigtree6184: to be recovered)

    Shadow Word: Pain functionality (bigtree6184: to be recovered)

    Eoy's PP calculator (bigtree6184: to be recovered)

    If you have any questions that relates to shadow priests, feel free to ask them in my blog, I might answer them and put them into this FAQ if the question is a reasonable one.
    Edited: February 21, 2021

  2. Hey man this guide is cool and all but was it hard to write down the glyph names instead of the links? Now that none of your links work anymore, it is like looking up to puzzle when i am trying to look up the information


  3. they should be temp. fixed, when i find time i will replace them with solid text

  4. " With the current itemization, there's no way to reach the haste cap "

    What haste cap are you aiming for mate ?
    because in the screen shots you have posted. i see its 970 haste.. is it what you want people to aim for ? or its just post to fill the page..
    Anyway.. i am sitting currently at around 1350+ haste. Don't remember exactly. with the bis list you shared. and the gems allotted in correct slots. you can easily reach the " haste cap " which many believe to be 1370 or 1400. i am not sure about that.. but you can reach it. This gear also brings you to around 10% hit.. add your misery talents .. gives in 13% in raid.. add a drenei being in your group.. that's 1% more.. DO NOT ... gem for hit rating unless you have ****ty gear or incomplete sets.

    This post is in no way insulting towards the OP or to other who believe in different strats.. but yeah.. this is what i have seen.

  5. Hey man this guide is cool and all but was it hard to write down the glyph names instead of the links? Now that none of your links work anymore, it is like looking up to puzzle when i am trying to look up the information
    Major Glyphs :
    Glyph of Dispersion
    Glyph of Mind Flay
    Glyph of Shadow

    Minor Glyphs :
    Glyph of Shadowfiend
    Glyph of Levitate
    Glyph of Fortitude

  6. June 9, 2021  
    Great guide thanks!

    Props for pointing out Shadow Word: Pain damage actualise with your current stats each time you refresh it, I would have bothered waiting for 5/5 Shadow Weaving + Shadowy Insight before casting it each time. You should specify to use Inner Focus with SW:P tho, extra crit, same as Wild Magic pot.

  7. June 9, 2021  
    Neither inner focus is working with SWP, nor is a wild magic pre-pot worth it for a snapshot, as the dmg gained through it is meagre. Haste pots ftw.
    Use inner focus with Mflay/Mind blast/Mind sear. Or save for dhymn If you know you will use it.

  8. late reply but SWP scales with damage % increase upon use, this includes shadow weaving so should be used always at 5 stacks, also includes other buffs such as BQL bite and Vezax shadow crashes.

    Inner focus does not work with SWP the way you'd think but crit rating does (wild magic)

  9. Couple of fixes for this guide:
    Singe target Opener is (VT -> DP / DP -> VT) -> MF (for 5 stacks of shadow weaving) -> SW: P, then refreshing dots after last tic and spamming mind flays as filler, only using SW: D when moving.
    MB can theoretically be used when there is less than 3 seconds until VT should be refreshed, since cast time on MB and VT is both 1,5 seconds, leading to a faster refresh of VT than if you were to use MF instead (considering no heroism effect)

    Also, talent-wise, it would be better to take two points out of Focused Mind, since you generally wont have mana problems as an sp, and put them into shadow affinity (for less threat) and psychic horror to help with cc'ing adds and mind controls on Lady deathwhisper.

    edit: You should also never use the MF or MS macro's in this guide, unless you have near perfect latency, as also pointed out in darksxx's guide.
    Edited: September 30, 2023

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