WotLK [PvE Guide] Assassination Rogue - The sneaky stabber

[Keikiller]

Do you know if master poisoner is well coded on Warmane? https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=...aster-poisoner
Does it really add 3% crit to all dps (physical + magic)?

As part of a high-level rooster. Does the rooster need to take these 3% crit into account for their cap ?

Thanks.

[Cstrike]

How would you gem at BiS Gear levels?

Red: 20 AP + 10 Haste
Yellow: 20 Haste

or

Red: 40 AP
Yellow: 20 AP + 10 Haste

or everything 20 AP + 10 Haste?

[Avoker]

I'm really thankful about your combat post and this one too.Your are the first one ever guy to explain us every detail about what we need to know.So tyvm fluffyinsect,Gnimo.

[Rughar123]

How do you optimize FOK as assa rogue? I did some testing, and it seems that the proc rate taking the current auto attack speed into account, so all the haste, talents and buffs, all lowers the chance of proccing instant posi when using FOK.
With my full assa rog gear, and 1.4 weapons, i got 1 instant proc per 4 FOK hit. Without haste gear, the same 1.4 weapon did 1 instant procc per 2 FOK hit. Is this correct behavior? There is no way to compete with combat rog FOK because of all the haste that we have? I even brought the 2.5 speed daggers that every1 uses in classic, but my AOE damage did not improve much.
I did the testing with pulling hundreds of mobs in instance, i also tried the 2.5 weapon dagger in ICC(dragons front of syndra 25), and it was a disappointment, CROG with LK weapons did way more dmg(and no, not from blade flurry).

Can somebody test this on classic please? Do they also using current weapon speed to calculate instant posi procc rate, rather than base weapon speed?

https://youtu.be/SO3ZhKEFV8w?t=368
He recommends hyperspeed, snd, and also has haste talent in his AOE hybrid talent, but that makes no sense to me if the instant posi procreate gets much lower with faster auto attack rate(unless classic has different way of calculating the proc rate).

The chance is not lower with higher haste, you must be misleaded somehow. Poison proc is affected by raw weapon speed (1.8, 1.4 for many dagers etc) and further haste bonuses does not affect the chance. I did many tests on dummy on that and I am very sure of that :)

I do use hybrid FoK rogue spec on Warmane Loarderon. I did modified some basics from Simonize you posted and modify optimal item list and talents to fit for Ruby Sanctum.

You can see stat here
https://uwu-logs.xyz/top?server=Lord...&cls=6&spec=-1

I am the rogue Confession. If you sort the table by tDps, i have my current best try 26.2K dps (unfortunately uDps does not count ads damage into account).

So yea. I can tell FoK and hybrid spec works as awesome as it looks like and Insta poison is definetly not nerfed by higher haste.

[9ZwgT]

Yea, but the thing is you playing with combat gear which has 1/3 the haste of an assa rog. I know how it supposed to work, my question is does it actually works that way or not.

[Rughar123]

There is nothing more simpler than doing your own test.

I just equipped 2 daggers 1.8 speed. Both of them with instant poison. 4/5 Imporoved Poisons talents. Accortding to tooltips it should have 36 percent proc chance https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Instant_Poison

Now I did dummy test. 20 percent melee haste. Result is 247 hits of instant poison per 655 hits of autoattacks

247 / 655 = 0,377

If haste will lower this chance expected value would be around 30 percent. If you are still not convinced, do your own test with 2000 autoattacks. But this one you have to do on your own :P