@Obnoxious: Do you even play on Icecrown?
Have you tried "making your own raid" with:
A:The proper,not inflated gear requirements?
B:Waiting for four hours to get together a somewhat decent group,as you can't be too picky(not gearscore,but proper gear,good enchants,gemming and talents,achievments) because it takes a very,very long time to gather people and half the time you spend is about replacing leavers/people that go offline?
C:Not seeing half the raid getting carried even though they have heroic items?
D:People failing even after tactics are explained,and having the needed achievments?
E:Leaders that don't know **** about how to distribute loot/players rolling on items they shouldn't,and they even try to report you just because they don't understand even after explaining it the 10th time as to why they won't get let's say the nice melee weapon as a hunter.
These are the daily struggles of most IC raiders,those who are not part of end-game guilds that ask for heroic gear as base requirements,then livestream as one of their members jump off the cliff during phase change on heroic lk,because he doesn't know when will the platform appear.
And lastly:If gear wasn't obtained by the way bigbazz described basic wow gearing process,then how?