Greetings,
I've been preparing this thread for about 8 to 10 months. I will try to make it as simple as I can. There are multiple ideas (not directly related to each other) that, in my opinion (and, of course, in most of Neltharion's players opinion) will help the realm a lot and even maybe save it from a certain death. Those are little steps and if we can manage to make them happen, I will for sure keep creating this kind of thread. Those ideas are not only just from me, but most of all a compilation of all players' opinion.
I think it's time for someone to officially announce it to Warmane : Neltharion's state is beyond critical. The game becomes nearly unplayable at night time with less than 100 players, sometimes. The game is totally unbalanced : in PvP, we can get close to 45 minutes of queue for a simple battleground because there is not enough people playing. I once reached one hour waiting time to finally get a 4v2 Alterac Valley. At this state, it has become a real joke. Arenas are even worse and it's impossible to get enough people for a raid or dungeon at night time. And it takes about one hour to bring 10 Horde players together for a raid (and only for Baradin Hold, the easiest Cataclysm raid) during the day. Population gets smaller everyday. We barely reach 300 players. Please, take a moment to understand and realize how hard it is for a realm to live with only 300 players. Three hundred. Maximum. We are not a "PvP-only" realm like Blackrock or Warsong (RIP). Think about it.
As I said earlier, this thread will contain three suggestions :
1 - Cancel or postpone the gold squish for Neltharion.
2 - Bring back the point shop.
3 - Bring back the transmogrification "bug".
Let's finally start the thread for real. Sorry for this long introduction and thank you for reading me.
1. CANCEL OR POSTPONE THE GOLD SQUISH FOR NELTHARION.
I completely understand the goal of this adjustment, don't get me wrong here. I agree that it is a very good way to maintain a healthy economy. However, Neltharion's economy is already dead. Let me explain myself : I've been playing here since the very first day (and I was playing on Frostwolf before we all lost our characters) and I am a very active player, I used to farm a lot of mats, I have all professions at max. level and I used to be very rich in the past because of that. I have been watching carefully the Auction House of BOTH Alliance and Horde for about 8 to 10 months. I led guilds in both Alliance and Horde for a long time to balance the game and it helped me to watch closely the overall economy of Neltharion. Global chat (which includes General/Trade chat) is most of the time dead. Silent. No one sells anything, and if they try to, they can't. You can barely buy anything from Auction House. I've been watching almost everyday for few months now (on both factions, don't forget) and there is close to absolutely nothing. Always the same enchants sold by the same people. No one buys anything because no one has gold to begin with. No one wants to level up professions on a dead realm. Even if they do have max. leveled professions (like me) it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to sell something. Everyone is looking for gold. Our last gold squish killed Neltharion economy, but not because of the squish itself, it's because 80% of our players left right after that (for other reasons, of course). Our economy didn't heal yet. It is very very hard to find mats on Auction House. Extremely difficult to get gems and enchants or even vicious gear. I help as much people as I can but myself as a single player (even though I lead a very big and rich guild) can't handle the entire realm by myself. Most of all, it is not my job. It is yours.
I played on Neltharion for a very long time, I am probably the only one that started from the very first day and is still as much active as I used to be. I do not own any kind of database about our current situation and I can't show you any statistics, but I can assure you that you can trust my words. Neltharion is in my heart and I've been fighting for it for a very long time now. You can consider this suggestion as my entire for for 2017. It took me a lot of time and I am pretty sure about what I am saying. Let the realm be for now. As I said, our economy didn't heal yet and Neltharion is not ready for another gold squish. It would literally kill what is already on its death bed. Postpone the gold squish for another time for the good of the realm.
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2 - BRING BACK THE POINT SHOP.
It has been more than 2 years that our point shop is gone. We were told it would be reworked entirely. We had a very complete one, well maintained and full of everything. Now, we only have lv80 to 85 gear. That's literally all. If AT LEAST we could buy Vicious gear with points, but no, they cost about an entire month of points for ONE piece. This is ridiculous. I know we should be grateful to have a point shop ; we don't even have to vote anymore, it's literally just points that you give to us for our participation to the game (achievements, logging, etc.) which is very nice from you. It might seem very insignificant for you, but a lot of people loved the point shop ; being able to farm companions, mounts, transmog, tabards, etc. was very nice. Keep the prices high if you want to avoid exaggeration or whatever, but the point shop is something that always comes back when I ask to players what they miss the most about Neltharion. It really has a meaning for us. I know it might take some time for you to improve it to what it once was, but it will be worth the effort. Bring back the little things that make WoW more pleasant and enjoyable for everyone.
Right now no one cares about collecting points anymore because the only thing we use them for is faction change to balance the game. More players would farm achievements and would log at least once a day if we could actually have something to buy with points. Personnally, I'd like to buy a different mount for some of my char. I would for sure farm my 5k achievement points for 1.2 points per day.
Better point shop = More players farming achievements = More players logging every day = More players overall.
3 - BRING BACK THE TRANSMOGRIFICATION "BUG".
The famous "xmog bug" loved by everyone. Being able to transmog any kind fo weapon into almost anything. As simple as that. It's litreally just changing the skin of your weapon for another weapon, like a dagger into a sword or an axe or whatever you want and can wield. I could also ask you why you repaired such a liked bug when the server needed your help, but that's not the main subject here. This bug has been a part of Neltharion for a very long time. It was loved by everyone and not harmful at all. Fixing this bug was like watering your plant when your house is on fire. Focus on how you use your water.
This may as well seems insignificant for you, but as I said I compiled a lot of suggestions and this came back a lot. It is, in fact, the suggestion that has been the most discussed about. Fixing a harmless and beloved bug is worse than not fixing anything. If you bring him back, it will only improve the situation. It will NEVER worsen, so why not? Pretty much sure it doesn't require a lot of time or efforts to bring back the game to what it originally is. This bug existed even on retail back then, it's not hard to put it back into the game. We could even stop calling it a bug and make it legit ; you created an entire transmogrification system for WotLK, I'm sure you can work a bit on this one. It's much more easier than creating everything back from the beginning.
So, here it is. My thread, a lot of months of compilation and dedicated work. I've done that for you, Warmane. I'm not doing it for me. Everything suggested here is for the good of Neltharion only. All of those suggestions will never, in any case, make the game worse. Those are ONLY improvements and, most of all, they are simple and fast to make. It's not a lot but it means a lot for us, Neltharion's players. Our realm is closer to death everyday.
I, as a Neltharion player, fought for this realm for a lot of time now. You guys know me well. You can trust my words.
I, Horribull, veteran of Neltharion, still have hope that you can save the realm. I will always be there to support you.
I, the most loyal and dedicated player you ever had, will stay until the very last breath of Neltharion.
Please, listen to this call for help.
Thank you for reading my immense wall of text. Don't hesitate to contribute to this thread with your own ideas and opinions and, most of all, if you agree with me, please let Warmane know.
Sincerly, from the deep of my heart,
Your loyal Horribull.
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Three ideas to help Neltharion's situation
Edited: November 6, 2017
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I hope they take this seriously. +1
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Sorry but this thread is a bad joke... Ppls are leaving not because of this... gold doesnt matter here... transmog is a joke since you don't have enough options in cata... point shop is a joke also because you can get what you need from coins and relatively fast from vote points...
If you take a look at the chat you'll see why they leave... Most of them stay here toxic. because they can't afford a better pc/laptop and buy Legion and pay monthly 13 euro...
Pve works not bad (FL/DS) [Bot,BWD overpowered, tot4w is not completeable since you can't go to other platforms] but peoples take only druid tank... for an example ppls who come back as bis 408ilvl warrior/pala/dk tank they can't even play the game because they don't have existance anymore...
Peoples don't know normal and hc tactics and they can't even use their characters even in BiS gear... They are scared to use an OT in semi hc 25m DS because they don't have enough dps to kill a boss... For an example: New players and players who want to return are forced to play druid tank and exploit bosses like every guild doing... (DK/Warrior/Pala tank doesnt exist anymore in Neltharion.)
Didn't mention the sets from before are used on fire mage to exploit mirror images etc. trinkets also used on almost every class to pull 40-50k dps in bis gear cuz peoples are so bad...
PVP is broken because of the effect of the pve items are not disabled in BGs and Arenas...
So ppls don't want to play cata anymore thanks to:
- the toxic community
- server is lacking of progression / progression is done
- finished the content already
- pvp is not balanced - pve items effect should be disabled in bg's and arenas
- pve is not fun since the server is neglected and there is a lot of bug...
- didn't mention before: the horde is dead just a few ppl playing there... so fans of horde has no existance like tanks in pve...
Sry Bull i see you are thankful and etc. for what you got, but you are not enough alone!... Peoples still didn't learn from the past... they don't want to change... They can't build just destroy at this realm... so bye!
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@Horribull As a horde player also a pve player i was forced to pvp because all of my fellow guildmates started to leave server day by day . Economy / Point Shop / or the Famous Xmog Bug / those 3points u mentioned wont revive the server on the point is right now even if they would so all 3 points u mention it will bring some players back but it wont be higher than 400 . What this server is missing is the will and love Warmane has to offer us even tho some moderators love this expansion but with their power they cant rlly do much to help our community . What i think will help this server to start making it more alive is fixing pve content more like ToT4w nm/hc , BwD10nm/hc ,BoTnm/hc , FLnm/hc , because most of players are bored of seeing only DS runs only and im one of them i always hated DS even tho thats where u get most of ur BiS loot . PvP side is ok for now but as someone mention removing PvE trinkets would make it lot better , having Tol Barad would also help this server . This might be long but thats i had to say .
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+1 I totaly agree with H.
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I really feel bad for the community that's still trying to give this server a go, but playing here when server is in THIS condition is like eating food from trashcan. As they mentioned before there will not be any fixes for the server and now we fell to the point where they don't provide us with devlog... And can you blame them? Nah, they won't write stuff like "tol'barad is being fixed, although we still have some difficulties with quene system we should get over with it once server is closed, a lot of bugs are being reviewed and ignored, players should see them and few new ones after next server restart"... Yeah i doubt they would let that one be among the proudly constructed tbc and wotlk posts
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Dear Warmane,
First let me introduce myself, i am known as Decadia, or Fouinne for the oldest players, my account was created on the 18th of august, 2013,
I have cumulated 9540 hours playing on Neltharion, and a lot more before the hijack.
Terribull (now known as Horribull) was the one who first introduced me to this game 4 years ago. Thanks to him, i had some of the most enjoyable
moments of my life, i met a lot of people i still talk to today and i don't want this to end.
So please, do something, make Neltharion great again, i am not the only one who is still having fun there.
(bonus point if you let us transmog the ugly healer mace into a dagger)
Decadia, a dedicated player.
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So this is your only problem? You could have communicate & make friendships with anybody without a video game or getting carried by someone...
You had and still have / will have a lot of opportunity to make what you avoided before IRL or in another game / realm...
I say it without offense: You should work on your brain to see positivity in other things also/ in peoples/ in small things what you didn't understand before, etc...
"A video game shouldn't make your booring life filled" you will hear this from a lot of ppl in the future, if you didn't hear this before...
Btw Wow was helping me out also to learn how to communicate with people for an example: about music and other things in the world. When i left my country i was already good in english and i didn't get interrupted by random toughts like how to make a sentence to make it understandable... Now i made several friendships IRL... :) Believe me only the first steps will be hard for you... (doesn't matter what you want to do/start...) ;)
Gl buddy. Peace.
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The current state of Neltharion is a shame. Look at that waiting time and tell me you're proud of yourself, Warmane. This is only one example, but I could post many more. This isn't the place to spam, I guess you get the point with one single screenshot.
This is beyond critical.
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@Horribull You can't really blame Warmane after they gave a choice to the peoples in a form of poll to discuss the future of the server... 1. Option few developer works on the realm, maybe they wont work at all in the future... the things will going without control... 2. Option merge the realm into MOP... and get updates usually in 1-3 month... Peoples understood the options and they vote for choice number one... (That's what the most of the people wanted...) After they got what they wanted, they were not happy, thankful or anything...
The current state of Neltharion is a shame. Look at that waiting time and tell me you're proud of yourself, Warmane. This is only one example, but I could post many more. This isn't the place to spam, I guess you get the point with one single screenshot.
This is beyond critical.
So the community and the realm was not killed because Warmane wanted this... The community was and still rotten inside... Look at the chat in alli side (rip horde) and you will understand... 1 positive energy is nothing against 200+ negative energy...
So please STOP talking in the Communitys name because: what YOU want now and what the actual COMMUNITY wants now is totally different... Should i repeat myself about why peoples don't want to play cataclysm anymore?... (or atleast here...)Edited: November 9, 2017
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+1 I really miss the old times when I played there with a bunch of my friend.In my opinion Cataclysm needs to be totaly fixed and then reopened.I remember a lot of people leaving after the DS bug.
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