1. Holy Pally BiS List

    Does anyone have a excel sheet of hte BiS items. Not pre raid bis but truly BiS items. Their stat weights and ranking would be great as well. Just trying to see what i should go for in gear as i gear up through kara/gruul/ssc etc etc.

    Thanks.

  2. Some people play with more regen (mp5), some people play with more mana (intellect), some people play with more spell crit, and late bt/sunwell some people play with more haste. Here's a pretty generic list.

    Until late game you really only care about intellect, Mp5, +healing and spell crit.

    --Pre Sunwell:
    Head - T6 (Archimonde) +35 healing +7mana per 5sec
    Neck - Nadina's Pendant of Purity (Mother Shahraz)
    Shoulders - T6 (Mother Shahraz) +22 healing +6mana per 5sec
    Back - Shroud of the Final Stand (BT Trash) +Subtlety
    Chest - T6 (Illidan Stormrage) +6 mana per 5sec
    Bracers - Blessed Adamantite Bracers (Rage Winterchill) +30 healing
    Gloves - Glorious Gauntlets of Crestfall (Lady Vashj) +35 healing
    Belt - Girdle of Hope (Azgalor) OR Girdle of Stromgarde's Hope (Hex Lord Malacrass) [note: ZA belt has some mp5, but less spell crit]
    Legs - T6 (Illidari Council) +66 healing +20 stamina
    Boots - Pearl Inlaid Boots (High Warlord Naj'entus) +Minor Speed & +6 Stamina
    Ring - Band of the Eternal Restorer (Scale of the Sands exalted reputation) +20 healing
    Ring - Ring of Calming Waves (High Warlord Naj'entus) +20 healing
    Trinket - Memento of Tyrande
    Trinket - Redeemer's Alchemist Stone
    Weapon - Crystal Spire of Karabor (Illidan Stormrage) +81 healing
    Shield - Felstone Bulwark (Supremus) +12 intellect
    Libram - Libram of Mending (BoJ) or Blessed Book of Nagrand (quest)

    --Post Sunwell:
    Helm - Helm of Burning Righteousness (Kil'jaeden)
    Neck - Nadina's Pendant of Purity (Mother Shahraz)
    Shoulders - T6 (Mother Shahraz)
    Back - Shroud of Redeemed Souls (Eredar Twins)
    Chest - Garments of Serene Shores (M'uru)
    Bracers - T6 Bracers (Kalecgos)
    Gloves - Sunblessed Gauntlets (Crafted - BS)
    Belt - T6 Belt (Brutallus)
    Legs - Legplates of the Holy Juggernaut (Kalecgos)
    Boots - T6 Boots (Felmyst)
    Ring - Band of the Eternal Restorer (Exalted w/ SoS)
    Ring - Ring of Calming Waves (Naj'entus - BiS spellcrit - HL build) [OR]
    Ring - Ring of Flowing Life (Crafted - JC - BiS mp5 - FoL build)
    Trinket - Memento of Tyrande (Illidan)
    Trinket - Redeemer's Alchemist Stone (Crafted - Alchemy)
    Main Hand - Hammer of Sanctification (Kil'jaeden)
    Off Hand - Aegis of Angelic Fortune (M'uru)
    Libram - Libram of Mending (Badge of Justice reward)

    These are pretty standard, not sure if I've missed an item anywhere.

  3. What about Pendant of the Violet Eye and Eye of Gruul? Where do they rank Pre Hyjal as trinkets? which is better?

  4. Hijacking this thread to ask if anyone has a bis Sunwell hunter list perhaps?

  5. What about Pendant of the Violet Eye and Eye of Gruul? Where do they rank Pre Hyjal as trinkets? which is better?
    Pendant is good. I wouldn't use Eye of gruul unless no other good options.

  6. Hijacking this thread to ask if anyone has a bis Sunwell hunter list perhaps?
    Enchant Rings -> JC / LW

    Meta via (Yellow, Green, Purple)
    -12 Crit
    -5 Crit, 2 Mp5/7 Stam
    -5 Agility, 7 Stam

    (It doesn't matter where you put your Crimson Sun)

    Main Hand - Shiv of Exsanguination
    - Enchant: Greater Agility (One Hand)
    Off Hand - Shiv of Exsanguination
    - Enchant: Greater Agility (One Hand)

    Head - Coif of Alleria
    - Enchant: Glyph of Ferocity
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
    - Relentless Earthstorm Diamond (12 Agi)

    Neck - Hard Khorium Choker
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Shoulders - Gronnstalker's Spaulders
    - Enchant: Greater Inscription of the Blade
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Back - Cloak of Unforgivable Sin
    - Enchant: Greater Agility
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Chest - Bladed Chaos Tunic
    - Enchant: Exceptional Stats
    - Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst (5 Agi, 7 Sta)
    - Sundered Chrysoprase (5 Crit, 2 Mp5)
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Wrist - Gronnstalker's Bracers
    - Enchant: Assault
    - Crimson Sun (24 AP)

    Hands - Thalassian Ranger Gauntlets
    - Enchant: Superior Agility
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
    - Stone of Blades (12 Crit)

    Waist - Gronnstalker's Belt
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Legs - Leggings of the Immortal Night
    - Enchant: Nethercobra Leg Armor
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi) x 3

    Feet - Gronnstalker's Boots
    - Enchant: Dexterity
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Ring - Angelista's Revenge
    - Enchant: Stats
    Ring - Band of Ruinous Delight
    - Enchant: Stats

    Trinket - Blackened Naaru Sliver
    Trinket - Madness of the Betrayer
    Ranged - Thor'idal, the Stars' Fury

    Armor Pen: 2257 + (Madness Proc 300) = 2557

    Armor Pen here might be a bit high, I'd keep these to play wit:

    1. Rings -Band of the Eternal Champion, Hard Khorium Band
    2. Weapon -Shivering Felspine
    3. Trinkets - Dragonspine Trophy - Berserker's Call

    In case you find yourself over cap (6200 armor bosses)
    -Sunder Armor (2600) / IEA (3075)
    -Recklessness (800)
    -IFF (610)

  7. Enchant Rings -> JC / LW

    Meta via (Yellow, Green, Purple)
    -12 Crit
    -5 Crit, 2 Mp5/7 Stam
    -5 Agility, 7 Stam

    (It doesn't matter where you put your Crimson Sun)

    Main Hand - Shiv of Exsanguination
    - Enchant: Greater Agility (One Hand)
    Off Hand - Shiv of Exsanguination
    - Enchant: Greater Agility (One Hand)

    Head - Coif of Alleria
    - Enchant: Glyph of Ferocity
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
    - Relentless Earthstorm Diamond (12 Agi)

    Neck - Hard Khorium Choker
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Shoulders - Gronnstalker's Spaulders
    - Enchant: Greater Inscription of the Blade
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Back - Cloak of Unforgivable Sin
    - Enchant: Greater Agility
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Chest - Bladed Chaos Tunic
    - Enchant: Exceptional Stats
    - Shifting Shadowsong Amethyst (5 Agi, 7 Sta)
    - Sundered Chrysoprase (5 Crit, 2 Mp5)
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Wrist - Gronnstalker's Bracers
    - Enchant: Assault
    - Crimson Sun (24 AP)

    Hands - Thalassian Ranger Gauntlets
    - Enchant: Superior Agility
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)
    - Stone of Blades (12 Crit)

    Waist - Gronnstalker's Belt
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Legs - Leggings of the Immortal Night
    - Enchant: Nethercobra Leg Armor
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi) x 3

    Feet - Gronnstalker's Boots
    - Enchant: Dexterity
    - Delicate Crimson Spinel (10 Agi)

    Ring - Angelista's Revenge
    - Enchant: Stats
    Ring - Band of Ruinous Delight
    - Enchant: Stats

    Trinket - Blackened Naaru Sliver
    Trinket - Madness of the Betrayer
    Ranged - Thor'idal, the Stars' Fury

    Armor Pen: 2257 + (Madness Proc 300) = 2557

    Armor Pen here might be a bit high, I'd keep these to play wit:

    1. Rings -Band of the Eternal Champion, Hard Khorium Band
    2. Weapon -Shivering Felspine
    3. Trinkets - Dragonspine Trophy - Berserker's Call

    In case you find yourself over cap (6200 armor bosses)
    -Sunder Armor (2600) / IEA (3075)
    -Recklessness (800)
    -IFF (610)
    This is a few things off first For BM bis trinks are Zerkers Call/Maddness and u can swap felspine with maddness vs low armor bosses, on use Trinks are very strong with BM cds so it makes call>felspine. For weps you dont want 2 Shivs 1 of them would be Hand of the Deceiver. For Gems your missing alot of the Orange Sockets which are better then pure reds in SWP level as long as you get 2 Agil or 4 AP benefit per orange gem then u should use 10 AP 5 Crit gems there. i did alot of testing to figuer out if 2 green all Agil vs 2 blue and in SWP the 2 blue comes out ahead a bit so u want 5 Agil/7Stam in chest/Shoulders 10AP 5 Crit in Orange and 10 Agil in reds.

  8. This generic holy set isn't going to do much for you. If you have to 'compete' with three or four 350 spell haste resto shamans spamming chain heal without a haste set of your own your heals will be overhealing for more than half their value. Sure on paper these items would be considered BiS for a hpala but you have to consider yourself in the context of a raid group where you won't be the only healer. Ideally you want atleast two entirely seperate sets with different gems.
    Edited: October 3, 2018

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