1. 2 Weeks Ago  

    Xrealm pvp proposal

    Dear Warmane players,

    I know these topics seem a bit tired, but I've put a good bit of thought in this thread and would consider most of it win-win.

    First things first - I am all for cross realm BGs. The faster the queue, the better. It can't really imbalance a lot considering there are ppl in low gear and in bis or near bis gear on both servers, so the 2 will even themselves out.

    In terms of arena, which is the more important topic, I believe that Xrealm should be considered only in the 3v3 and potentially 5v5 bracket (if anyone still bothers with that one anyway)

    Now, hear me out. The reason for that is that the 2v2 bracket hasn't been considered balanced or competitive in retail for the past 8 years anyway. Plus it evens out the playing field in terms of gearing on Lord and IC. That bracket is probably best left as it is, so focus can be shifted to 3s and therefore that one should be left without any gear restrictions.

    In terms of 3s, that would benefit from being crossrealm, but only under certain gear limitations in the vein of old AT. Those would be up to the 264 meta, which is the current cap on Blackrock, and what a lot of ppl reach on average in Lord judging by a quick armory browse. Now, i can already see the pitchforks and torches, with ppl yelling "BUT MUH SMOURNE AND HC OFFPARTS". And that is where the rationale comes in. By all means, use those in the 2s bracket and bgs, but concede to those restrictions in order to get a more balanced, active and competitive 3s scene. Imo, the only 277 ilvl items allowed in 3s should be the T2 pvp weps (which should be made available on blackrock) and the ashen verdict rep ring.

    To answer some common criticisms to the whole debate:

    - You don't need gear to be good in pvp. Its all about leet skeeelz. A: True, if you can dominate with Smourne, surely you can do that with he T1 axe. And if you consider yourself a skilled, competitive PVPer, you should have no problem farming it in no time.

    - Lord n blackrock have a gear disadvantage, no RS gear. A: True, but by 2s staying within their server, the gear difference is nullified to the point where its all obtainable by the same players. In Xrealm 3s, the gear diff is nullified again by implementing those restrictions.

    - (For IC donor players) "I paid good money to get this gear, why should i get to not use it in game." A: Ok, this one is a bit tricky. This is the one that made my brain hurt. If you are into competitive pvp, then surely this would give you something to do in the time before implementation. I.e. Forming ICC 25 runs with similar situation guildies, to obtain your nm DBW, or Bauble or whatever. Please note, that I appreciate the fact that your donations are helping the server and a lot of you have done it, so you don't want to or have to grind for the gear all over again, this is just a small compromise to make for a more active pvp comunity.

    These are my thoughts on the matter, I don't know if the staff have similar ideas in mind, but it would be possible in this way to revitalize 3s and improve most ppl's pvp experience.

  2. 1 Week Ago  
    Well, i believe that cross realm will be only for bg, but i don't read anything about this for a while so maybe i wrong.

    I didn't play during wotlk, but if BLizzard was so stupid to make pve items top tier in pvp in retail... it's blizzard faul.
    MOP solved this and then they screwed again with legion in a minor rate.

    So, the problem here isn't cross realm, is the moron basis of allow pve items at instanced pvp, same reason that broke cataclysm, this design give donor players advantage to full pvp players.

    My point here is dealt with it, it's the expansion faul, not private server. i think the point of play a expansion it's resemble the original one, if wotlk had this problem and they didn't solve when live, it's obvius the problem with wow pvp.

    Plus, lordaeron and blackrock have low population, that show you the interest of "balanced pvp" from players.
    Edited: 1 Week Ago

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