1. May 28, 2018  

    Best in slot gear PRE SUNWELL

    Hi,

    My guild just recently started progress on BT and I'm looking for a BiS list for what gear i should aim for while there.
    Does this exists? If not, does anyone here want to make one? :D
    I would expect a couple of items from t5/Hyjal will be used aswell.

    /Taztingo - Special Snowflake

  2. May 29, 2018  
    Gear is slightly different for different specs. You're BM or Survival?

  3. May 29, 2018  

  4. May 29, 2018  
    A quick search came up with a German page (but you can find English translated version Here).

    While most posts on that page are troll, you can find some useful information by Post # 9. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing.

  5. May 29, 2018  
    Hi,

    the "best bis list" don't exists because every hunt has different point of view on arpen/ap/agi/hit dps increase
    It also depends on ur raid and party setup, if u play ally or horde, if u have boomkin in raid, wisdom judged on boss....

    but if it can help u

    without boomkin in raid (9%hit stuff)

    head cursed vision illidan
    neck choker supremus
    spallz t6 sharaz
    back destroyer cape teron
    chest t6 illidan
    wrist Insidious band teron
    gloves t6 azgalor
    waist Alejandro money belt anetheron
    legs t6 council
    boots shadowmaster’s boots sharaz
    finger1 signet ring illidan
    finger2 primal wrath 3Timer ZA
    trinket1 Madness council
    trinket2 DST/tsunami gruul/leotheras
    melee 2x bad mojo malacrass
    ranged s4 or 1 of two 95 dps bow illidan/archimonde


    if u have moonkin in raid (6% hit)
    head cursed vision illidan
    neck choker supremus
    spallz t6 sharaz
    back thalassian wildercloak kael’thas
    chest t6 illidan
    wrist Insidious band teron
    gloves t6 azgalor
    waist Alejandro money belt anetheron
    legs t6 council
    boots shadowmaster’s boots sharaz
    finger1 band of eternity hyjal
    finger2 primal wrath 3Timer ZA
    trinket1 Madness council
    trinket2 DST/tsunami gruul/leotheras
    melee 2x bad mojo malacrass
    ranged s4 or 1 of two 95 dps bow illidan/archimonde
    Edited: May 30, 2018

  6. May 30, 2018  

  7. May 30, 2018  

  8. BM SPEC

    Head - Cursed Vision of Sargeras (enchant: +34 attack power, +16 hit rating) (meta socket: +12 agility/+3% critical damage, yellow socket: +10 agility)

    Neck - Hard Khorium Choker (yellow socket: +10 atack power/+5 critical strike rating)

    Shoulders - Gronnstalker's Spaulders (enchant: +26 attack power, +14 critical strike rating) (yellow socket: +10 agility, blue socket: +10 agility)

    Back - Thalassian Wildercloak (enchant: +12 agility)

    Chest - Embrace of the Phoenix (enchant: +6 all stats) (3x red socket: +10 agility)

    Wrist - Bindings of Lightning Reflexes (enchant: +24 attack power)

    Hands - Gloves of Immortal Dusk (enchant: +15 agility) (2x red socket: +10 agility)

    Waist - Boneweave Girdle

    Legs - Bow-stitched Leggings (enchant: +50 attack power, +12 critical strike rating) (red socket: +10 agility, yellow socket: +10 attack power/+5 critical strike rating, blue socket: +5 critical strike rating/+7 stamina)

    Boots - Softstep Boots of Tracking (enchant: +12 agility)

    Ring 1 - Angelista's Revenge (enchant: +4 all stats)

    Ring 2 - Hard Khorium Band (enchant: +4 all stats)

    Trinket 1 - Madness of the Betrayer

    Trinket 2 - Berserker's Call

    Two hand weapon - Shivering Felspine (enchant: +35 agility) (yellow socket: +5 critical strike rating/+7 stamina)

    Ranged weapon - Crossbow of Relentless Strikes (enchant: +28 ranged critical strike rating)


    SURVIVAL SPEC

    Head - Cursed Vision of Sargeras (enchant: +34 attack power, +16 hit rating) (meta socket: +12 agility/+3% critical damage, yellow socket: +10 agility)

    Neck - Telonicus's Pendant of Mayhem

    Shoulders - Gronnstalker's Spaulders (enchant: +26 attack power, +14 critical strike rating) (yellow socket: +10 agility, blue socket: +10 agility)

    Back - Thalassian Wildercloak (enchant: +12 agility)

    Chest - Embrace of the Phoenix (enchant: +6 all stats) (3x red socket: +10 agility)

    Wrist - Guardian's Chain Bracers (enchant: +24 attack power) (yellow socket: +10 agility)

    Hands - Gloves of Immortal Dusk (enchant: +15 agility) (2x red socket: +10 agility)

    Waist - Don Alejandro's Money Belt (yellow socket: +10 agility, red socket: +10 agility)

    Legs - Bow-stitched Leggings (enchant: +50 attack power, +12 critical strike rating) (red socket: +10 agility, yellow socket: +10 agility, blue socket: +10 agility)

    Boots - Cobra-Lash Boots (enchant: +12 agility) (blue socket: +5 critical strike rating/+7 stamina, red socket: +10 agility)

    Ring 1 - Angelista's Revenge (enchant: +4 all stats)

    Ring 2 - Signet of Primal Wrath (enchant: +4 all stats)

    Trinket 1 - Madness of the Betrayer

    Trinket 2 - Berserker's Call

    Two hand weapon - Shivering Felspine (enchant: +35 agility) (yellow socket: +5 critical strike rating/+7 stamina)

    Ranged weapon - Bristleblitz Striker (enchant: +28 ranged critical strike rating)
    Edited: September 12, 2018

  9. SURVIVAL SPEC

    Head - Cursed Vision of Sargeras (enchant: +34 attack power, +16 hit rating) (meta socket: +12 agility/+3% critical damage, yellow socket: +10 agility)

    Neck - Telonicus's Pendant of Mayhem

    Shoulders - Gronnstalker's Spaulders (enchant: +26 attack power, +14 critical strike rating) (yellow socket: +10 agility, blue socket: +10 agility)

    Back - Thalassian Wildercloak (enchant: +12 agility)

    Chest - Embrace of the Phoenix (enchant: +6 all stats) (3x red socket: +10 agility)

    Wrist - Guardian's Chain Bracers (enchant: +24 attack power) (yellow socket: +10 agility)

    Hands - Gloves of Immortal Dusk (enchant: +15 agility) (2x red socket: +10 agility)

    Waist - Don Alejandro's Money Belt (yellow socket: +10 agility, red socket: +10 agility)

    Legs - Bow-stitched Leggings (enchant: +50 attack power, +12 critical strike rating) (red socket: +10 agility, yellow socket: +10 agility, blue socket: +10 agility)

    Boots - Cobra-Lash Boots (enchant: +12 agility) (blue socket: +5 critical strike rating/+7 stamina, red socket: +10 agility)

    Ring 1 - Angelista's Revenge (enchant: +4 all stats)

    Ring 2 - Signet of Primal Wrath (enchant: +4 all stats)

    Trinket 1 - Madness of the Betrayer

    Trinket 2 - Berserker's Call

    Two hand weapon - Shivering Felspine (enchant: +35 agility) (yellow socket: +5 critical strike rating/+7 stamina)

    Ranged weapon - Bristleblitz Striker (enchant: +28 ranged critical strike rating)
    i have like no idea who the fk u are, but u clearly don't play Survival at all...

  10. I am new on this server (i play few days), but i play survival hunter more than six years and with survival i am neck to neck compare with BM hunters (mean damage/dps) on server when our guild is 4/6 SWP.
    Maybe you don't like my opinion, but unfortunately for you, it's true. When you have your list, post it here and compare them.

  11. I am new on this server (i play few days), but i play survival hunter more than six years and with survival i am neck to neck compare with BM hunters (mean damage/dps) on server when our guild is 4/6 SWP.
    Maybe you don't like my opinion, but unfortunately for you, it's true. When you have your list, post it here and compare them.
    What?
    survival hunters will never be as good as a bm hunter (if played correctly)..y..in addition to that your gear is a strange mixture of haste and those "intellect on it = hunter gear" stuff without 4P T6....
    maybe you need to clarify wether you entered swp or just trash or loot from the first 3 bosses so on

    >>> as a survival hunter you need to find the balance between personal dps and support and adjust your gear on every boss (armor) which seems to be buggy here

    Gear
    PRE-SUNWELL!!
    4P T6 with Bow Stiched
    Weapons HighArmor 2x MH Anetheron Blade or Low Armor 2x ZA Daggers
    Wrist Teron
    Neck and Cloak are fine, so are trinkets
    Rings Aswell
    Boots Mother
    Range Weapon PersonalDPS Archi Bow and Support Doomwalker Gun

    Rotation after every Steady Arcane or Multi Shot for max DPS therefore no Haste Stacking so you dont clip a Steady!!

  12. What?
    survival hunters will never be as good as a bm hunter (if played correctly)..y..in addition to that your gear is a strange mixture of haste and those "intellect on it = hunter gear" stuff without 4P T6....
    maybe you need to clarify wether you entered swp or just trash or loot from the first 3 bosses so on

    >>> as a survival hunter you need to find the balance between personal dps and support and adjust your gear on every boss (armor) which seems to be buggy here

    Gear
    PRE-SUNWELL!!
    4P T6 with Bow Stiched
    Weapons HighArmor 2x MH Anetheron Blade or Low Armor 2x ZA Daggers
    Wrist Teron
    Neck and Cloak are fine, so are trinkets
    Rings Aswell
    Boots Mother
    Range Weapon PersonalDPS Archi Bow and Support Doomwalker Gun

    Rotation after every Steady Arcane or Multi Shot for max DPS therefore no Haste Stacking so you dont clip a Steady!!
    1) I play Deep survival with 0/20/41 and I using rotation auto – steady – multi – auto – steady – auto – steady – arcane - auto – steady - auto - steady ( hand weaved = best). I do same damage as BM hunter, because i have perfect timing and no mistakes in rotations and my pet alive on most bosses (only on few bosses my pet die). Our BM hunters isnt hardcore players as I am, and do mistakes and few of them have problem with pet (must ress him in fight = less damage). But it is irrelevant to compare this with Warmane server, because free servers haven't same parameters. On Warmane hunter works differently, here is autoshot fire when is ready and when i cast second steady shot, autoshot fire in steady shot casting time. But on other servers autoshot fire only when steady shot is fired, when cast steady shot twice in a row, autoshot fired only after both steadies fired, not in second steady shot casting time.

    2) I testing PRE SWP gear more than 10 months and this is best for survival hunter.

    3) For pre SWP survival hunter is 4 pieces T6 only boost +3-4% damage.

    4) I Set your and my gear to Cheeky's spreadsheet and to my spreadsheet (i am hard theorycrafter) and this is results (from Cheeky, you don't have my spreadsheet):

    Your gear:
    Attack power = 3145
    Crit = 50,45%
    Agility = 1223
    Hit Rating = 48
    OOM = 171,79
    Hunter DPS = 1847, 16 (7700 armor) and 1652,42 (6200 armor)
    Pet DPS = 399,03 (7700 armor) and 366,94 (6200 armor)
    Total DPS = 2246,19 (7700 armor) and 2019,36 (6200 armor)

    My gear:
    Attack power = 3286
    Crit = 53,99%
    Agility = 1279
    Hit Rating = 57
    OOM = 137,30
    Hunter DPS = 1933,47 (7700 armor) and 1736,18 (6200 armor)
    Pet DPS = 414,36 (7700 armor) and 381,66 (6200 armor)
    Total DPS = 2347,78 (7700 armor) and 2117,84 (6200 armor)

    In my gear survival hunter do about +100 dps more than in your gear (my spreadsheet is more benevolent to you and different is "only" about +80 dps)

    Your gear better only in OOM stat, your OOM is about 34 sec latter than me, but this calculation is without mana potions and Judgment of Wisdom.

    I am sorry for my bad english.
    Edited: September 21, 2018

  13. playing 0/20/41 in T6 gear, yikes

  14. playing 0/20/41 in T6 gear, yikes
    Different (in DPS) between 0/20/41 (deep survival) and 7/20/34 (speed survival) is very small, but deep survival have readiness = 2x FD in a row when one is resisted, but on this server is resist FD set to 0% = not blizzlike, 17% vs bosses is blizzlike (what you do as a speed surv, when boss resisted your FD? You are waiting :D. 2x rapid fire and when raid need, 2x misdirection. I prefer Speed survival only with Thoridal.

    Your reactions is very funny and it looks like you're not good as hunter, because when you are good hunter, you put on this forum relevant informations or you discuss normal about this, not as a d..k.
    Edited: September 21, 2018

  15. u answered ur question about fd urself
    so u just pick readiness to have 1 rapid fire more per fight, looks pretty worth to me spending 7 more talent points for that...

    and since u brag about ur so good and do same dmg as bm hunters maybe u start to proof that by posting any kind of logs ( legacyplayers )

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