1. Sunwel items in cashshop

    Are they coming anytime soon if even at all?

  2. [Eternal debate] While only servers owners know for your answer, what would be the point of doing any PVE here if even Sunwell gear would be available in the cashshop?

  3. The point would be to farm for the gear you didn't buy, or for people who don't want to buy gear at all, or for people who want to gear alts, or for personal achievement, or for.....on and on. Plenty of reasons people play - even with a full cash shop.

    Not only that, but it allows people who don't have time to poopsock the ability to play the parts of the game they enjoy the most - which contributes to a lively server.

    tldr: the server is old enough that all items should be on cash shop (especially considering glaives are)

  4. [Eternal debate] While only servers owners know for your answer, what would be the point of doing any PVE here if even Sunwell gear would be available in the cashshop?
    In icecrown all gear is available in cashshop and there is 10k population :)

  5. In icecrown all gear is available in cashshop and there is 10k population :)
    Comparing TBC to WOTLK is like comparing apples to oranges

  6. In icecrown all gear is available in cashshop and there is 10k population :)
    And on Neltharion all gear was available in the cash shop and the realm was shut down nonetheless.

  7. Why would anyone want SWP gear on store?
    If that ever happens there is no point to play anymore since u can just buy endgear on store and play for nothing.
    What u gonna do? Run around with Apolyon and kill pigs around Oggrimar?

  8. Why would anyone want SWP gear on store?
    If that ever happens there is no point to play anymore since u can just buy endgear on store and play for nothing.
    What u gonna do? Run around with Apolyon and kill pigs around Oggrimar?
    Because you may want to buy only a piece or two? Because someone has more money than time and can still contribute to a lively community? Because they may enjoy progressing through content, but otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity? ....and on and on....

    That's like asking why would anyone pay for microtransactions in a game to speed up their progress, and considering it's a billion dollar industry I'd say quite a few people.

  9. Because you may want to buy only a piece or two? Because someone has more money than time and can still contribute to a lively community? Because they may enjoy progressing through content, but otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity? ....and on and on....

    That's like asking why would anyone pay for microtransactions in a game to speed up their progress, and considering it's a billion dollar industry I'd say quite a few people.
    That's not a valid argument. You do not need SWP gear to progress through SWP. It's not "speeding up" progress, it's making it obsolete. People want SWP gear because the game makes you crave it, but once you have it, that's it. The crave is gone, and now you don't have an objective anymore. Buying SWP gear simply shortens the lifespan of your interest.

  10. That's not a valid argument. You do not need SWP gear to progress through SWP. It's not "speeding up" progress, it's making it obsolete. People want SWP gear because the game makes you crave it, but once you have it, that's it. The crave is gone, and now you don't have an objective anymore. Buying SWP gear simply shortens the lifespan of your interest.
    Just because you disagree doesn't make it invalid. Obviously all your satisfaction in the game revolves around obtaining gear. Sure, everyone likes getting gear but they also like....well....playing the game...

  11. Just because you disagree doesn't make it invalid. Obviously all your satisfaction in the game revolves around obtaining gear. Sure, everyone likes getting gear but they also like....well....playing the game...
    You are avoiding my point by judging what you think I like of the game for.
    Your argument was "otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity", I don't simply disagree. That's merely incorrect, because you don't need SWP stuff to "have the opportunity" to contribute. Therefore, "lack of time" is not an argument for releasing SWP content.

    If and when SWP gear will be released, it will be to financially support the server. The sole reason it might not come out, or hasn't come out yet, is because they are weighting the financial advantages/disadvantages of the consequential population drop.

    Also, they will never tell you in advance when or whether it is going to happen, because that would only make a part of the population unhappy and/or willing to leave. It simply wouldn't be a smart thing to do.

  12. Just because you disagree doesn't make it invalid. Obviously all your satisfaction in the game revolves around obtaining gear. Sure, everyone likes getting gear but they also like....well....playing the game...
    In that case you can enjoy the game without swp gear. Period. Releasing end game items will only destroy the last purpose of pVE. You dont need swp tems to progress through swp. And you can enjoy the game playing 5 hours a week without swp gear. What is the point of playing the game if you cant improve the character/guild progress without going on shortcuts? It is no challange to do hyjal with full t6.5 gear. You may as well just not play at all. If you dont understand this, then you shouldnt be talking about gear shop at all and wow is the wrong game for you.
    Edited: April 1, 2019



  13. Just an immature idea ... maybe make it a special sale and allow each char to purchase only 1-2 SWP items? Ppl would still have gears to obtain from game and their thirst for buying SWP items would be quenched, and server got money.

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