1. Gearing for raids with emblems - Holy Priest

    Still new to WOTLK and just trying to find the best gear to ICC.

    I am a Holy Priest going and nearly maxed out farming dungeon gear from drops.
    I used my emblems over by the emblem of triumph vendor near the innkeeper's bar in Dalaran by the portals.
    BUT just recently my friend showed me that there is a Cloth armor trainor that sells better gear with emblem of triumph and also frost.

    Are there any other vendors that I am not aware about that can help my GS go up? I'd love to get in a raid

  2. The cloth-specific vendors in the Threads of Fate building in Dalaran.
    The emblem vendors in the faction-specific parts of Dalaran that have a vendor for each type of emblem.
    The EoT vendors out at the Argent Tournament that are just outside the entrance to ToC10/25.
    The EoF vendors at Light's Hammer, just inside the entrance of ICC.
    There are also some world drop and raid drop BoE's, along with crafted BoE's that you can use.

    Depends on what you're wearing, usually.
    #1 Priority is getting your set bonuses via T10 ASAP.
    If you don't have access to #1 just yet, see if you can get the T9 two-piece bonus.
    Everything beyond that revolves around just getting more stats and getting your regen up high enough to where your mana pool can comfortably last until the end of most boss fights (i.e. you go OOM about the time the boss dies). Focus on Spirit>mp5>Intel>Crit above other stats until you reach that point. From there, you can start gearing up some more haste and spellpower for throughput.

    If you link your armory or tell your character & realm name, I can give specific item suggestions if you want.

  3. The cloth-specific vendors in the Threads of Fate building in Dalaran.
    The emblem vendors in the faction-specific parts of Dalaran that have a vendor for each type of emblem.
    The EoT vendors out at the Argent Tournament that are just outside the entrance to ToC10/25.
    The EoF vendors at Light's Hammer, just inside the entrance of ICC.
    There are also some world drop and raid drop BoE's, along with crafted BoE's that you can use.

    Depends on what you're wearing, usually.
    #1 Priority is getting your set bonuses via T10 ASAP.
    If you don't have access to #1 just yet, see if you can get the T9 two-piece bonus.
    Everything beyond that revolves around just getting more stats and getting your regen up high enough to where your mana pool can comfortably last until the end of most boss fights (i.e. you go OOM about the time the boss dies). Focus on Spirit>mp5>Intel>Crit above other stats until you reach that point. From there, you can start gearing up some more haste and spellpower for throughput.

    If you link your armory or tell your character & realm name, I can give specific item suggestions if you want.
    Mercy, you're a saint. Thank you for you're help again.
    Realized most of my gear are higher than the EoT Vendor in the faction section of Dalaran and i just discovered the cloth vendor.
    Im conflicted because I don't know if I should be going for the full velen's set and not benefit from having 4 pieces. Or stick with the gear right now that I have (don't quote me on this) but higher gear score last time i checked.
    I've been trying to grind both emblems daily but 2 EoF a day is not cutting so I am trying to find the best way to get into WoTLK Raids to farm more EoF daily

    http://armory.warmane.com/search/gookss
    Im in Icecrown
    IGN: Gookss
    Edited: September 17, 2019 Reason: more info

  4. Based on what I'm seeing on your armory, here are some suggestions on what you can do with your gear pre-ICC raid.

    Helm: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47695
    This is a side-grade, but it is a decent gain. You don't need hit as a Holy Priest, spirit will net you more spellpower, and crit is both good for throughput and mana efficiency.

    Shoulders: Change your gems here. Haste is alright, but not an ideal gemming. Don't worry too much about this socket bonus. If you are having mana regen troubles, gem pure spirit here. If not, you can gem pure spellpower. If you want something in between, my favorite gem is "Purified" which is spirit+spellpower.

    Chest: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=48063
    This is a side-grade, and the reason for it is the same as the helm. It's a decent improvement on stats, even though the item level doesn't change.

    Belt: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=45831
    This item will be on the Emblem of Conquest vendor in Dalaran. It will be in the Alliance-only area for you where there are the multiple different emblem vendors.

    Ring: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47732
    This will be on the Emblem of Triumph vendor in Dalaran, or one of the vendors outside of ToC10/25. Replace your Spiteful Signet with this.

    Trinket: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=48724
    Same location as the ring above. Replace your Forge Ember trinket with this.



    BoE item options;
    These will be pricey, so don't bother with them unless you have some gold to burn.

    Trinket: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=37835
    World-drop BoE. You would replace your Nevermelting Ice Crystal with this one.

    ICC crafted legs & boots (tailoring);
    http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=49892 - http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=49955
    http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=49893 - http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=49956
    Even if you have the ability to craft these yourself, the materials will take a long time to gather, or will be expensive. You could also just buy them outright from the AH if you have the gold.

    Weapon: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50051
    This comes from the Battered Hilt quest chain. The likelihood of you farming it up is very low, so you would likely need to drop gold on one. But it will be one of the best weapon options available pre-ICC.



    Item farming options;
    Trinket: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47215
    Drops from the Black Knight in ToC5 normal. Replace your Nevermelting Ice Crystal with it. This trinket would last you a good while and is an excellent mana trinket.

    Weapon;
    http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50227
    Farming Pit of Saron for this can be good if you have a nice off-hand.

    Belt: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50263
    This belt will be better than the one you can get from Emblems of Conquest. Another reason to keep doing your daily heroic Pit of Saron.


    Ending note;
    Keep doing your daily heroic Pit of Saron (not Forge of Souls, you don't need it) and see if you can at least get the belt from it. If you can convince people to do heroic Halls of Reflection, there are a few items you can get in there.
    Otherwise, once you've done the things listed here in this post (or you can just go ahead and do this in addition to farming emblems for the above listed items), you should go do ToC10 and 25 if you can manage it, on a weekly basis, to get as much gear from it as you can.
    If your aim is to eventually get into ICC, you can try to fairly early. Even if you only kill a few bosses, that's still a sizable boost on how quickly you can get Emblems of Frost. If you're pugging ICC, then GOOD LUCK. I strongly advise finding a guild that will allow you to go in there with them though.


    Mercy, you're a saint. Thank you for you're help again.
    I appreciate that. I'm happy to help.

  5. Ending note;
    Keep doing your daily heroic Pit of Saron (not Forge of Souls, you don't need it) and see if you can at least get the belt from it. If you can convince people to do heroic Halls of Reflection, there are a few items you can get in there.
    Otherwise, once you've done the things listed here in this post (or you can just go ahead and do this in addition to farming emblems for the above listed items), you should go do ToC10 and 25 if you can manage it, on a weekly basis, to get as much gear from it as you can.
    If your aim is to eventually get into ICC, you can try to fairly early. Even if you only kill a few bosses, that's still a sizable boost on how quickly you can get Emblems of Frost. If you're pugging ICC, then GOOD LUCK. I strongly advise finding a guild that will allow you to go in there with them though.



    I appreciate that. I'm happy to help.

    Thanks for all your help, if I could I'd upvote you to oblivion. I really appreciate that you took the time to look at my gear and break it down to what I should go for. :)

    Also would just like to hear your take on endgame BiS gear, would you recommend the link below as a starter and work towards a Val'anyr?

    https://mesorchoo.com/gearlist/bis-holy-2/

    Thanks again
    Edited: September 18, 2019

  6. When it comes to Holy BIS, if you're not playing the "Renew spam" build, there are various ways that you can build your gear. It all depends on how much spellpower you want, how much haste you want, and how much mana regen you want. The list on the link you posted, I would change the cloak to the cloak out of Ruby Sanctum (http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=54583) and change the staff to the Lich King (http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50734) mace (or Valanyr) and the off-hand from Sindragosa (http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50635).

    And yes, Valanyr is a very good item for Holy Priest. One could argue it is the best class/spec for the weapon.

    I, personally, carry around two sets for Holy. One that maximizes haste/crit, and another that maximizes spellpower/spirit. How I use them depends on what raid buffs and utilities I have, how long I expect boss fights to last, and how hard I expect the healing to be.

    This is what my two sets look like;

    Haste/Crit set;
    Head: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51261
    Neck: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50724
    Shoulders: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51264
    Cloak: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=54583
    Chest: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50717
    Wrists: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=54582
    Gloves: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51260
    Belt: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50613
    Legs: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51262
    Feet: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50699
    Ring 1: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50664
    Ring 2: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50636
    Trinket 1: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50366
    Trinket 2: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=54589
    Weapon: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50734
    Off-hand: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50719
    Wand: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50684

    Spirit/Spellpower set; (Most commonly used)
    Head: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51261
    Neck: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50609
    Shoulders: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51264
    Cloak: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=54583
    Chest: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50717
    Wrists: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50686
    Gloves: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51260
    Belt: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50702
    Legs: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=51262
    Feet: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50699
    Ring 1: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50664
    Ring 2: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50636
    Trinket 1: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50366
    Trinket 2: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=54589
    Weapon: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50734
    Off-hand: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50635
    Wand: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50631

    There are also some items that I swap on a case-by-case basis. Those items being;
    http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50685
    http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=46017
    http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=47432 (This is the Horde version)

    If you, or anyone else, plans on "full-donoring" a Holy Priest and don't plan on playing "Renew Spam", I would strongly suggest set #2 and include a Solace trinket in there. It's the most mana friendly of the two setups, and it has very potent levels of spellpower too (over 4300 spellpower self-buffed, no procs, and no full spellpower-gemming). Of course, there are some items that I don't use that could go even further down this route, for example http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=50644 but I chose not to because that would be excess regen I don't need and thus opted for more haste instead. This does not mean that you cannot go this route yourself if you want to.

    And before anyone asks "Where is the Ashen Verdict ring?", there are two reasons I don't use it. First, I don't like RNG procs on healers, so I avoid them where possible. Second, I'm using it for my Shadow set and have no plans on using coins to get a second one.

    I do have a guide here ( http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=380470 ) that may help you with some of your questions or concerns.

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