Man you totally touched me here. That exactly how i feel. This game used to be fun but now it is frustrating more and more.
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Man you totally touched me here. That exactly how i feel. This game used to be fun but now it is frustrating more and more.
Dear Warmane staff, Moderators, GM's and the rest
Do you really think that "Ninja looting in dungeons", " disrupting gameplay", " donnor bashing" and stuff like that should be your primary focus to bann people when almost entire server is using some kind of hacks in pvp. So my question is should us minority get them as well just to be on pair with majority or what should we do. You allowed it to come to this state. I didnt allow it, people writing here didnt allow it, players who get reckt and have no idea what hit them didnt allow it. It was you and only you. And please please dont say we are doing everything or send us report link submit ticket blah blah. Everything that is written here is true and you know it. I can also say for sure that people started noticing. Before they were ignorant but now more or less when reckt at least they wonder wtf just happened this is not normal. Well guess what? Because this scripting, cheating, hacking became so extreme so people will start putting pieces together. And when they finally finish the crossword that will be this server's downfall. Social media networks will do the rest.
I would also want to point out that "just the two of us" 2k or 2,2k from 2016 dosent meant **** anymore. 2,2 k then equals 1,8 k now (i mean for the real skill)
Updating this. After watching at arena spectator two of my friends struggling at 1700 win/ loose, win/loose ....and their movement, i can safely say that when you click on player and he is having laggy glitchy movement even without obvious hack abuse he is 99,99% scripting. It was very hard to get to that conclusion since there are not many players who does not have "laggs" .
Would also like to add that hunters script will change from aspect of the dragonhawk to viper when he is at % mana even if opponent is at low HP and hunt has enough mana to kill him without switching aspects and sacrificing 50% dmg what could result in that players survival.
And finally concluded why resto dudu dont use cyclones when playing in team with warrs, just saw war when auto charge everyone and even cycloned target LMAO. I mean he was constantly random charging it, not only once. My best guess script does not recognize cyclone on target.
PS. Thanks you forum moderators for deleting many posts from this thread even those without any kind of "violation" what ever that means for you. You can do as you wish its private server but still it will not change the the fact that most of thing written here are true and most of deleted posts were true.
Edited: December 1, 2019
The thing you are talking about here is not necessarily cheating, when a person is having "laggy/glitchy" movement to you, it's not due to the fact that he is a scripter, but from my own experience it has to do something with the WoW with new models which Warmane provides here. I've encountered it numerous times now, while my mate is playing on his "oldschool" version of WoW, I've been playing on a version downloaded from Warmane itself, and if the person was laggy/glitchy for me, my mate didn't see a thing and everything looked fine to him, same as when you meet these laggy/glitchy players in Dalaran Arena, they are straight up invisible for you but not for the ones who plays on WoW with old models.
Frankly, I have no idea what might be causing it, nor I'm not trying to defend any of these cheaters/scripters, since I've ran into ****tons of, especially this season, filth. But I felt like sharing this not that important piece of information.
Hmm, ok for laggy glitchy movement i can find some logic, but every invisible person i saw/recorded in Dalaran and Nagrand arenas had their shadow's moving way to fast like an obvious exploit of speed/fly hack. Usually all the things i wrote stack together. You will find more than just one thing at certain player. Higher rated players are more skilled in hiding their tracks. It takes a little more time and effort but even them can be caught. Scripts are imperfect malfunctioning programs which will often unwillingly cause a players to behave strangely and many times we contribute this to bugs, but when u have timeline what/where/to whom/how many times it happened then you can come to safe conclusion. I would also like to point out that there are far more scripts then bugs on his server.
When i see some teams after their mmr drop to 1k going full 40 wins 1 loss, even if being optimistic and say 50% of teams they encountered were scripting they must have some special set of skills like maybe Liam Neeson in Taken 1. Why dont't i feel impressed and why do i feel disgusted?
Look back at my earlier comments and then read this thread again, there are scripters/hackers out there. But most of the time people just dont know how to tell if its legit or not. Theres plenty of examples of that in this thread (for example the invis in daleran, or the instantly cancel aura on bop).
Just try to catch shintas next war stream and youll see that a lot of the stuff you think is scripting is just very good players (of course its sometimes is scripts).
"How to tell if it's legit or not"...Walking through walls: not legit. 26k ambush on 1520 resil and 9000 armor WITH PWS up: NOT legit. Having a fabulous wall of unattackability for nearly a minute: not legit. EMFH popped twice within 30 seconds: NOT legit. To the untrained eye, yes, perhaps. To the seasoned veteran, no. Cancel cooldowns on demand while not a sub rogue (filmed it): NOT legit.
"of course sometimes it's scripts". Yeeaaa...a LOT of the time when you think it's a script, it IS a script. Particularly if the toon in question is in an elite pvp guild - either side). Those guilds promote and sometimes coerce their players to script. Wouldn't want the guild to look bad now, would we? Better to be invincible. Otherwise they would lose due to lack of real talent. Oh...and Blackrock does it too. Baaaad.
I think you are overestimating the power of cheats.
1. Speed and fly hacks are blocked by Warmanes anti cheat.
2. There is a server side GCD cap of 1 second.
3. Might be related to bug abusing. For expl morphing into a oger to increase the hit box of the character.
4. Yes, that's an issue. There are scripts for every kind of class but it's especially rewarding for warrior players to use scripts.
5. I doubt that team hacks exist. Probably just fast reaction time and the right macros.
6. DMG hacks don't exist on Warmane. It's probably related to bug abusing.
7. I highly doubt that this exists on Warmane.
I think that many of the things that you observed are related to bug abusing and sometimes you were just misinterpreting the situation.
Scripting is indeed a big issue in arena but I doubt that any of the other "hacks" that you have mentioned here actually exist.
I aggree, a lot of mentioned things here are just simple macros/overall good game awarness, now I get it, by this point Shinta has become more of an icon for a Warrior in wotlk pvp scene and I don't doubt about his actual skills, but that doesn't mean he has always been "clean" aswell. I'm really sceptical when it comes to warriors you meet on high mmr these days and they just ran you over with their 90% of perfect kicks and UAs, and you obviuously never heard of him in your life. Yeah no, THANK YOU
Dude, you sound like one of those political bot's writing all the good stuff for certain political party and undermining everyone ellse.
If the mentioned cheats would exist then players would fly through raids and global each boss with a dmg hack.
That might happen on some trashy private servers with no anti cheat whatsoever but not on Warmane.
Edited: December 2, 2019
It's just that this thread seems more of a "we can't up in arena cause all we face are scripters" than a "ok many people cheats what can we do to report them more efficiently"
Even if you face scripters (it happened to me also when I was queuing) you can still win, and if you lose it's not only because they were scripters (I mean maybe if he dealt 10k/s yeah in this case it's only cause he was scripting, but I'm speaking for less obv scripts like hitting through pillars, gcd etc) but cause you could outplay them better and thinking more.
Yeah it's frustrating but instead of saying 'Can't up my rating I encounter only cheaters" (which is untrue really) maybe say "oh ok, he was cheating but by doing this and this I could have won against this dog****".
I guess it's just a feel of this topic to dump all the losses in arena to script and "I'm only losing cause opponent scripts"
This thread still exists because I'd like for people to make reports but the fact is there are no relevant staff on the forums. You're free to use this thread for figuring out what is and isn't legit but keep it within our rules. That means no reporting or accusing players of cheating here; It's just speculative slander unless sent to a GM.