1. My idea for a 2H Frost spec for 2vs2

    Hey guys. Let's try something different.
    A 2vs2 spec designed with a healer (hpal or disc)
    Instead of dual wield, we're going to use a two handed weapon - Bryntroll the Bone Arbiter.

    Here's the spec:
    https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#jcb...bz0uzAZf0M:Nka

    We have 5 talent points left which can be used for:
    - Bladed Armor - if you have an overall good survivability and want to pump more damage.
    - Blade Barrier + Imp. Frost Pres - If you find you take more damage than you'd like and go in Frost presence often (for the 2% extra damage reduction)
    - Acclimation - If you play with a Hpal and you have a problem with caster comps in general. I know this talent is shunned, but think about the effectiveness of Hpal Aura + Acclimation resistance.
    - Frigid Dreadplate - If you face Arms Warr + Hpal.
    - Scent of Blood - If you need better runic power generation.
    We skip Chillblains since it depends on Frost Fever, which can be dispelled anyway, and we spam Chains of Ice most of the time anyway.

    The goal here is to experiment.
    The play style is flexible, focusing on Chains of Ice + Plague Strike to keep diseases on the target and generate runic power for the Frost Strike spam. Obliterate should only be used when you go for the kill, have both diseases on the target and should be combined with Unbreakable Armor + Deathchill for the guaranteed crit. Hence we use the Obliterate glyph as well.

    Sigil of the Vengeful Heart should be used for the Frost Strike damage increase, along with full Wrathful Set/Boots/Belt/Bracers and Lady 25Hc neck, Toc Hc Cloak, Death's Choice/Verdict for trinket and if you lack resilience, Wrathful ring.

    Presence should always be unholy, unless you need to get defensive, in which case - Frost. Resilience should be around 1200 to maximize defense and be able to play aggressive instead. Frost lacks the improved death strike healing of unholy and blood, so any passive defense should be good.

    The most important thing is to use Bryntroll. Pretty much any strike, including Frost Strike can proc it, and it procs like crazy anyway. This will improve the burst greatly and heal you at the same time, which will help keep the pressure from you.

    Give it a try guys and give me your opinion on the matter. This spec greatly reminds me of cataclysm 4.0.6 2 handed haste Frost play style, which was Necro + HB and Obliterate when you have to burst.

  2. Smourne should outperform Bryntroll because it's slower, has higher weapon dmg, better passive stats and the str proc which scales exceptional well with http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=51271, http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=53344 and http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/spell=49657 which gives a total of 39% more str.

    In general Two hand Frost deals less dmg than DW because it has less KM procs and no double rune forge. However, when you have a very short uptime on the opponent (only 2-3 hits), then two hand deals more dmg than DW in that short time window.

    That should give you an idea of whats possible to pull off with 4 two hand Frost DKs, each with Smourne:



    That was before the moltdown. I miss my DKs...
    Edited: February 18, 2020

  3. May 4, 2020  
    Try this one. https://wotlk.evowow.com/?talent#joy...0ubuubZf0M:kNh

    obliterate doesnt consume diseases here anyway so you can skip those:P. Acclimation is a must as is chillblains imo since its one more debuff for them to take care of.

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