1. 18 hours ago  
    Lets all link our armories so our points are valid?
    Yes because if you are saying that you are competitive and state of PVP is good, you need to be at least 1800+ rated, if you are stuck at 1400mm you are neither competitive nor good, everyone can get to 1400mm, even the biggest nobs with 100 games won and 300 games lost,. Same goes for people who play 1 BG every XY days. Why should their opinion be taken seriously if they are not competent to speak about matter?

  2. 17 hours ago  
    Well thats an interesting point of view, but Lordaeron was never really a high quality pvp realm so I dont know where you are going with this, theres maybe 20-30players above 2k in soloq, 2s i dont know much, think there is around 10-15teams above 2k and 3s 10teams above 2k. Personally im on 2.2+ in soloq and on 2k in 2s ladder, does this mean my opinion is valid?

  3. 15 hours ago  
    Obviously yes.
    Why would opinion of someone who plays it casually matter? It's the casuals who have ruined gameplay on retail
    You are participating in PVP and are skilled, therefore you know what you are talking about, unlike this tryhard Frysharry who only contradicts himself and says that Lord PVP is healthy and that you should still reroll on Blackrock for PVP because Lord sucks.

  4. 9 hours ago  
    Alright, here we go.
    https://imgur.com/a/y07boNI

    Got lvl 80 at 7th of June, needed 3 weeks to reach 1800 for weapons. Got 277 bracers after that, so I had some 264 BoE pieces and battlemaster trinket at that moment. Same for my teammate, she had Banner of Victory, some 264 emblems items and 245 daggers from ToC.

    Yes, we played ~300 games to reach it with close to 50% W-L ratio, I wouldn't call that extraordinary good result, and 1800 is not exactly a high rating. My point is that you can get your rating and PvP gear if you're ready to spend some time tryharding and don't mind to communicate with your teammate. Most importantly, your teammate has to have the same mindset. Then some progress in PvP is only a matter of time. You don't need BiS items for this.

    Cheers and GL to you all in a new season.


    As of state of PvP on this realm, I guess there aren't many 'hardcore' PvP players due to obvious reasons. Most players will want to PvP with good PvE items. Yes, it can give you an advantage, sure. However, I don't think it's mandatory to have these. But what can you do, most people think they must have it before they even start playing any sort of PvP. That's why we see so many fresh 80s from Icecrown, equpped with BiS trinkets, Shadowmourne or LoD weapon and saronite set. They play horribly, they click all their abilities with mouse, they're what some call 'wallet warriors'.
    So, about server choice: why does one want to farm raids when one can simply choose another server and donate (Icecrown) or even skip the leveling process entirely and buy BiS items with only arena rating requirements (Blackrock)?
    There is a little PvP community here on Lordaeron but it pales in comparison to Icecrown and Blackrock.
    Edited: 9 hours ago

  5. 9 hours ago  
    No I am happy with where I am with both friends and gear, but judging from what you wrote Id assume you are stuck at 1400mm with very negative win to lose ratio.
    Would you share a link to your characters armory?
    https://imgur.com/lByOiAK

    https://imgur.com/a/QfUZala

    :((

    Will be pushing more next season :)
    Edited: 4 hours ago

  6. 4 hours ago  
    Obviously yes.
    Why would opinion of someone who plays it casually matter? It's the casuals who have ruined gameplay on retail
    You are participating in PVP and are skilled, therefore you know what you are talking about, unlike this tryhard Frysharry who only contradicts himself and says that Lord PVP is healthy and that you should still reroll on Blackrock for PVP because Lord sucks.
    Lordareon is healthy with the understanding that a) the overall population is smaller and less consistent than that of Icecrown, b) PvPers are not drawn to this realm as to be able to do competitive PvP (see: 2.1k+ or so) you need to have BiS PvE offpieces which takes an unnecessary amount of time relative to IC/BR. This is not mutually exclusive with also saying that a) Lordareon has outlived its original conception as a hardcore server and b) Lordareon's overall PvP scene is worse than Icecrown or Blackrock (and this will never not be the case), and c) of the population we do have that PvPs, it is active and thriving, nor is it mutually exclusive with suggesting people play on Icecrown or Blackrock. This is also not mutually exclusive with wanting Lordareon to be nerfed into an Icecrown 2.0 in order to make the realm healthy long-term. Don't be mad at me because you can't into logic.
    Edited: 3 hours ago

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