1. How's my build? (Frost)

    https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#ofcbzuMc...zfu0fdGf0t:csj

    It's should be for both pve and pvp, currently I can't afford duel spec so that's the reason for that.
    I actually want to see what are you saying about that 20 points in arcane, i saw that some people have it.

    I'm a fresh 80 lvl if it's matter :)

  2. this spe suck in both (pvp-pve). You can't do one spe, to do all. This kind of thing doen't exist. Frost pve is trash, only available on very low gs.

  3. this spe suck in both (pvp-pve). You can't do one spe, to do all. This kind of thing doen't exist. Frost pve is trash, only available on very low gs.
    ok.. than?

  4. Frost PvE is a very proc reliant spec and because of that you can spend most of the fight casting only Frostbolt which is not good at all (which is why it "sucks") but on a perfect proc situation you could make use of a bunch of Deep Freeze, Ice Lance and Frostfire Bolt. However, it gets easily out shined by the Fire and Arcane specs.

    So here's my suggestion:

    Frost PvE (4Fun - Don't let anybody else you cannot have fun): https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#of0Vck0c...0fzgfkt:RiI0mc
    Fire PvE (which is very good and pretty straightforward): https://wotlkdb.com/?talent#of0Vck0c...hVubhct:VLi0mc

    Check the glyphs suggestions as well.

    I hope you enjoy playing your mage ;)
    Edited: April 30, 2020

  5. Frost PVE is not a thing. I've tried it, with high haste (in my arcane gear), around 1k, a bit over. It's ****. Low crit (arcane has the proc, much higher crit chance than it says), pet does some damage, but not enough to make up for that. Lower SP and lots of talents are just fillers compared to high SP of arcane and lots of damage increasing talents of fire. At low gear you'll perform even worse. Even if the starts aligned and you got FOF and BF procs every few seconds, it's damage would still be lower than both of the other specs.
    Sure, go for the frost spec Arvonex linked, but don't make a post about being kicked from RDFs and not getting raid invites. Your damage will be low and utility isn't really for dungeons, tanks have utility.
    Switch over to arcane while you're in low gear (low crit) and later on once you have very good gear switch over to fire for PVE.

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