Hey, all.
A few days ago, I participated in an Ulduar pug raid and became a witness of a rather curious dispute. Imagine the following scenario: http://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=45039 dropped from Flame Leviathan. The loot system was "Group Loot" at that time, because the raid leader had forgotten to change it to "Master Looter" before we started. He got 3 out of 4 items and made people roll for them based on their main spec. But he didn't receive the fragment - the healer /refused to/ couldn't* give it to the raid leader. As a result, he got kicked and was threatened with a report. The raid leader asked us to report that individual as well, though I didn't do that, because I wasn't sure who was really at fault in that scenario (+ I played as a warlock, so I didn't care who got the shard). When talking about "loot ninja", the following common scenarios come to my mind:
Source: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread....=1#post2651922- Master Looter taking items that were not reserved or giving them to players that did not win, unless it's 2nd highest roll when winner had no use for the item (rogue rolling on caster trinket).
- Changing looting rules during the raid, after it has started.
Example: You joined a raid that was being advertised as one with no reserved items and after first boss raid leader says that he reserves item x from last boss.
- Player exploiting game bug to bypass master loot. In such cases it is best if master looter would fill report that shows player leaving the raid and empty loot window.
- Player need rolling (group loot) on items which he cannot even use.
- In RDF needing on items for OS (unless everyone in party is explictly fine with this).
- Need rolling for other players to have 2 or more roll chances at one item.
- Kicking players from raid for no reason, especially before distributing loot from boss kill that they participated in.
But what about the case I just described? Who was really in the wrong there? People could only roll for their MS and, technically speaking, the healer didn't break that rule. So, I sent a ticket to the GMs wanting to hear their opinion and this was their response:
I admit, that I didn't expect this, but I assume that many others don't as well. That's why the purpose of this thread is to inform you of these cases and what behaviour would end up banning you:
- If you are the RL and you forget to change the loot system to ML, you take the responsibility, when someone snitches something before officially distributing the loot.
- If you are a player, who notices the RL's mistake, don't try to be cheeky and take something prematurely. You will also get punished.
Soo, yeah. Play responsibly and thanks for reading!