1. 25/10 ICC Normal/HC are on the same save

    Hi all,

    From what i could remember that ICC 10/25 normal and heroic had there own seperate save.

    Why is this not active on Icecrown?

    Because the way how locked outs work changed several times in WOLTK?

  2. From what i can tell, you didn't even raid WotLK, neither did bother to check information you claim to be true.
    ToC is inly raid with such feature

  3. Many years ago like 2012 or something, that was indeed true. They changed it later.

  4. Many years ago like 2012 or something, that was indeed true. They changed it later.
    https://www.wowhead.com/guide=3.3&icecrown

    Feel free to scroll till blue post and point out where Normal and heroic mods were separate IDs, when even there it is stated that EACH boss had individual Hard Mode, which are not available till Lich King is defeated.

  5. https://www.wowhead.com/guide=3.3&icecrown

    Feel free to scroll till blue post and point out where Normal and heroic mods were separate IDs, when even there it is stated that EACH boss had individual Hard Mode, which are not available till Lich King is defeated.
    Here, they changed it several times. First anyone who wanted to do join a hc raid had to kill the lk in normal version first, later only leader of the raid had to have ks to form a hc raid. They were seperate for long, this dynamic raid feature is a thing that added to here later.

  6. Maybe they've changed it during testing before release. I've played WotLK through whole expansion from Day 1, and nobody ever did HC bosses till LK kill, which kinda while point of this topic - there were no separate raid ID/lockouts of ICC, like there are in ToC10/25. It is way generous and against Blizzard policy about timegating content

  7. We are talking about here molten->warmane, not blizzard.

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