While i wanna get an answer to those questions too (including: Once War Effort is done, are resources gonna travel 5 days like on Retail?), i gotta add you dont need to worry about your RF AQ Mike :D
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It was clearly answered above that AQ will open as soon as players collect all the resources. Get your arses up and get your resources in.
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Nice so they went back on their original approach of locking the few scarab lord players out of their rewards with the deadline to now punishing the majority of players by removing the deadline 5 days before it happened. All the guilds had their rosters built and people took time off work because you guys said that was the deadline and if we weren't close then they would open anyway.
We are not close on the war effort at all. 48% or whatever is not an accurate representation of completion. The easiest supplies were completed first. The remaining supplies at the rate we're going are over a month out. Saying that staff will help complete it for us or "accelerate" this process presents the same problem as before. It's so pointless. Nobody wants to farm or dump gold into it. They're just going to raid current content or just play other games until you're done with whatever this is. This is not Vanilla, 20 years later we just want to raid end game and have x12 exp rates to skip the boring stuff.
It doesn't make sense for Warmane either because supposedly you're just delaying additions to the marketplace and at this rate there will be no time to even progress in AQ at all. Our only theory is they realized how buggy and broken the AQ raid is from all the recent reports so they're controlling the release by adding however many resources they want until the major issues are resolved and just marketing it this way to disguise it and try to make everyone happy.
I mean if that's the case you wouldn't admit it, but cool do what you have to do. Hopefully it's ready sooner than later.
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You're making some kind of conspiracy theories.
About the fact that those who fulfilled the chain on the scarab lord will not get the title and mount was said in the framework of assumptions and as I understood intimidation. About the fact that the gate must be opened by the efforts of players, clearly and clearly stated in one of the posts above. What is stopping you and other players on the server to start giving up resources now? Apparently your laziness. You just want to be served content on a plate. Personally, I'm extremely happy with the decision to open the gate by player power alone. Now I know for sure I'll get the title and mount. Personally, I give up all low-level resources as much as possible. I buy everything I can at the auction at reasonable prices and see absolutely no problems. What's stopping everyone else from doing the same? I only see the majority crying on the forum, not playing the game. You have to accept that no one will do it for the players.Edited: 1 Week Ago
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Again...
That has been there. It wasn't edited in recently "when we realized the raid is broken" or whatever. So unless you are claiming we are able to see into the future and made that line in the schedule that ahead of time because we knew we would "market it this way to disguise it," you're speaking nonsense.
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The above is the information we've received. And part of this is actually clarification for the "depending on player progress" because nobody knew what that meant and at this point the schedule and the post means nothing. The claim I made is based off of current information. But Obnoxious contrary to what you stated you believed, free mounts for everyone and let's all sit back and watch staff step in and aid with the effort. We will all just sit here farming BWL gear we would've bought on the marketplace so who is winning really? Congrats on Scarab Lord everyone well deserved.
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That second quote from Nobuemon is pretty damning
Most people took that to mean that AQ would indeed be released on that date, just go back and look at the replies on that forum post. Anyone reading assumed that meant the war effort was irrelevant, which is apparently now a "misconception" that no one from Staff clearly dispelled.
Why phrase whatever it was you really meant THAT way, and then refuse to clarify when everyone has misunderstood, when all that mattered was the war effort being completed normally.
So either everyone on Warmane misunderstood & staff forgot to tell us, OR Warmane staff had a change of mind.
The latter seems more likely, and the massive list of bug fixes really makes it look like you realized AQ was not up to par and that you needed more time to fix it
Which is fine. We'd just like more honnesty, that's all. Just being level with us would go a long way in fostering a healthy community
Go do the war efforts now noobs !!
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Maybe the Warmane administration would consider creating a table with a list of players and guilds that help the most in collecting supplies?
This might encourage others to contribute to be on the list as well.
Sometimes such statistics encourage the participation of "those who are just watching" =D
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Dear Warmane team,
some people above have legitimate questions.
The "Warmane help and contribution" towards War Effort is very vague and it would be nice to have more information, so we can at least estimate AQ release (if ever).
Also, how is AQ opening going to be handled? Will there be the 5 days "delay"? Once WA is finished, will AQ, for example, release next day? In 3 days? Or?
And MOST importantly, we all believe regardless of when (if ever) AQ releases, this does not impact Naxxramas release at all? And June 29th for Naxxramas release is set in stone? Therefore TBC release is not delayed? I dare to say most of us came to play here because of shortened Vanilla cycle (brilliant move) and we would hate to hear that the original schedule is suddenly changed.
If community does not care and won't help with WE, leading to AQ never releasing, then it is what it is. But this should not impact the original schedule and information based on which people came to play here. It has been fairly pointed out that AQ release was written as "depending on player progress", meaning it could never release (in time). But everything else has it's date stated.
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Unless you are from infamous or Tranq there is absolutely no need to take a day off to raid AQ the first day it gets released lol, what a waste of vacation days. And if you were prepared to throw that one vacation day away for AQ, you wont mind a second.
On a general note: 95% of the playerbase did nothing towards the War effort and many publicly advocated against anyone getting Scarab Lord + Mount because apparently "its not deserved", while the Scarab Lord contenders were doing most of the War effort turn ins so far, without any guarantee that their time and resources wont go to waste - therefore im happy with this decision and thanks to the team no matter what reason is behind it.
Anyone who wants to raid AQ sooner can simply start helping out with War effort - if (i assume) 50 people could have gotten this far themselves, imagine how fast its gonna get released if more people start helping out with any amount of materials.
Less QQ, more Pew Pew my fellow gamers.
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Lovely to see how some "people " who was so sure that they gonna get the new content served on a plate without lifting their finger now are hit by the reality train that they actually have to work to achive something :D
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Especially when you conveniently cut out the "is both our estimate and" part.
Idem above, as well as the part of there being a leeway of some days. It was never set in stone to be the 27th, even with the new information from Nobuemon. It could be the 28th, the 30th or a week later and still fall within the estimate and leeway. Your claim is based on selectively reading the current information. Taking days off based on something that could have a leeway of days already wasn't the best decision on its own. The difference now is that leeway has been extended, perhaps as more player involvement with the effort has been noticed.
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Well it kinda was set in stone, since the word deadline was used:
"The april release is both our estimate and deadline for releasing the raids, so on the one hand yes the raid will be released but on the other us releasing it will lock players out of obtaining the mentioned mount and title.
There is some leeway of course, but even that is a few days at most."
Whole war effort thing (both here and in previous posts) was only for people to get the title and mount, it was never about releasing the raids - which should be released in April+few days as that was the deadline.
So then the release of AQ is between 5.5 - 7.5. ?(as stated by Nobuemon by saying "Deadline is april release + few days" and using quite generous meaning of few days = a week)
So why it wasn't communicated right away after Nobuemon posted, that no, in fact it will not be April release but now we have to do war effort to even unlock the raids (not just the title and mount)?
Because there is a huge difference between "there are no raids until war effort is done" and "there will be raids released, but if u don't do the war effort, there is no title and mount".
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I guess it is technically true that the date was never set in stone, if we ignore how badly communication on this topic was managed
Now that I think of it, TbC's is not set in stone either
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No more sense in people griping about it. They aren't going to release it any faster. Buckle up and try to enjoy crappy BWL drops for the next month. Maybe they will be nice and let us buy from the store sooner.
Side note, what is going on with the Onyxia raid? A response on that would be nice.
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