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Why is the elem shammy Damage so low in both PvP and PvE
20k LB crits in ICC
12k Bolts
6-8k dps
Full sancti Spell power gems
45% crit
3k in PvP with Spell pen.
1-2k Bolts
3k spell power
130 spell pen
1300 resilience
40% crit
Meanwhile I get crits from druids for 8k, priest dots tick for 3k/s, palas and warriors reach 12k.
It's like I don't have any resilience at all.
Dude ele. dmg in pvp is insane and prolly the best single target dmg in the game.Check ur spell ranks it could be problem why u doing so low.In pve ele. dps isnt best but you can still pull nice numbers.It depends on yours gear and stats.U should write whats your sp/haste and in the end hit rating...Cheers.
In PVE elemental shamans and moonkins are not supposed to dish tons of damage, but rather provide lots of buffs for other raid members. That's why people want them in raids, usually not more than a single one. They're useful no matter the personal dps.
Well give us more info about ur pve side..
Like sayd b4
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And GS?
http://armory.molten-wow.com/character-profile/Shinimasen/Lordaeron/Quote:
Originally Posted by packard
PvE unbuffed
Bonus damage: 2728
Hit: 367(13.99%)
Crit:42.66%
Haste: 1005
Mana reg: 373
Self Buff: Totem of Wrath, Wrath of Air totem, Glyph of Wrath, Glyph of Lava, Glyph of LBolt
PvE self buffed:
Bonus damage: 3092
Hit: 367(13.99%)
Crit:42.66%
Haste: 1005
Mana reg: 373
Additional Raid self buffs: Food and Flask.
Weapon enchant: Tested BOTH Black Magic AND 63 spell power, both are ranking me with 6k DPS w/o BL ICC 10 and 11k DPS BL burst.
My total DPS in ICC 25 is usually 8k, crits of Lava burst = 22k and LBolts - 11-12k
All spells are max ranks.
Macros I use:
Quick Targeting in ICC:
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Maximum usage of DPS trinket:
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Aggro:
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Rotation: Flame shock, LB, fill in with LBolts until the next LB is ready and sometimes using Searing Totems.
Chain Lightning is optional for me depending on boss fights. Marro requires me to Move a lot so I prefer faster casts+ when I DPS spikes, it hits Maro.
I keep up Lightning shield only if the fight is swift, else water shield.
Searing totem is optional for 1k bonus DPS if there is another elem shammy or it's DPS battle for top5 roll trinket.
I tend to relay a lot on Corroded Skeleton Key for Marro 10hc, because surviving with 25k hp is impossible.
That lowers my DPS to 4k
So yeah talents:
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Gems are mainly for SP then haste and apart from 1-2 items I have full DPS gear.
Lag factor in 10man - I don't lag a lot there so I can DPS properly.
Lag factor for 25man - Can't even participate in the fight so I never do full 25s, only gearing runs( 1-6 bosses)
U will always look for damage done not only dps.U can do 9k dps and be in top 10 by dmg done in 25hc raids.Also yours sp is just low man ,3.1 with totems isnt enough.
PVP SECTION
Your stats: 3kSP, 130Spe, 1300Resilience, 40Crit - under Soft-Cap!
Looks your gear is Relentles Set with Wrathful Neck, Back, Wrist, Ring and PVP trinket.
You need: 3.5kSP, 130Spe, 400 HasteR, 1400Resilience or even more.
Usually the Boomkins can push the highest burst dmg (more than ele shaman) but only during 20sec, while Starfall and Barkskin is up! After that they play defensive. The ele shamans are more unpredictible and can push random high bursts anytime. If to talk about pvp dps or dmg.
-Why my Lava and LB crits for only 4-6kdmg, while boomkins, palas and warriors hits for 8-12kdmg?
Simple: that is not possible without cheating hacks. True, they stacking more PVE items as a result - more dmg, but they can't hit for 12kdmg on a character with 1300 resilience. For example, I leveled a PVE retry paladin to 6.2kGS and with ICC buff (+30% to dmg) my highets crits vary between 9-14kdmg, rarely have like 17kdmg, but I'm able to push 19kDPS! Outside the ICC dmg is LOWER! I met specified guys during PVP and looks like they ignore all our Resilience ;) (They are just our server gladiators).
Tip. One of the BiS PVP Arms warrior with Shadowmourne (watch video)
can crit with Heroic or Mortal strike for like 10k dmg while trinket and/or axe buff is up on a target without resilience. If your Resilience is over 1300 he rarely will crit for like 7000-8000 dmg (FAR AWAY from 12000!). Look at the calculations example below. The same is referred to any character class. Max PVP crits will vary between 6-8k dmg, based on character resilience. The DoT's ignore character resilience, but they rarely will crit for 3-4k dmg.
A bit of explanations!!!
Resilience Patch Changes
Patch 2.4.0 (2008-03-25): Now reduces the magnitude of mana draining effects by the same amount that it reduces critical strike damage. The Tooltip has been revised to reflect this.
Patch 3.2.0 (2009-08-04): No longer reduces the amount of damage done by damage-over-time spells, but instead reduces the amount of all damage done by players by the same proportion.
"all damage done" means "all damage done" doesnt matter if it crit or not crit effect is applying on top of it.
Patch 3.0.3 (2008-11-04): The damage reduction component of resilience has been increased from 2 times the critical strike chance reduction to 2.2 times the critical strike chance reduction. In addition, the maximum damage reduction to a critical strike from resilience has been increased from 30% to 33%.
Resilience has the following mechanics: All dmg is reduced by x% and crits dmg gets an ADDITIONAL dmg reduction of y%. So the total dmg reduction on crits dmg is: (1-(1-x%/100)*(1-y%/100))*100% = z%
So as you can see, crit hits get 2 dmg reduction from resilience.
the math
input dmg: 3000
resili: 1300
critical chance reduction: 13.785790031813
critical damage reduction: 30.328738069989
all damage reduction: 27.571580063627
critical multiplier: 150 + 50% (from Elemental Fury talent) = 200% (base caster 50%)
normal dmg formula:
dmgReducedByResili = (100 - resiliAllDmgReduction) / 100 * dmg
dmgReducedByResili = (100 - 27.571580063627) / 100 * 3000
dmgReducedByResili = 72,428419936373 / 100 * 3000
dmgReducedByResili = 0,72428419936373 * 3000
dmgReducedByResili = 2172,85259809119
expected crit formula:
crit = (allCritMultiplier - resiliCritDmgReduction) / 100 * dmgReducedByResili
crit = (200 - 30.328738069989) / 100 * 2172.85259809119
crit = 170.671261930011 / 100 * 2172.85259809119
crit = 1.70671261930011 * 2172.85259809119
crit = 3708.4 dmg!!!
During PVE a dmg of 3000 should crit for 6000 dmg. Against a character with 1300 Resilience it will crit for only 3700 dmg!!! ItÔÇÖs just increased by 23%!!! In other words your PVP Direct Damage crits will be divide by 2!!!
For example: Lava Burst AVG dmg = 6000.
LavadmgReducedByResili = 4350.
LavaCritReducedByResili = 1.706*4350 = 7419.
Moreover, your chance to critically hit that target is decreased by critical chance reduction: 13.785790031813%.
This is the point why so many players left Unholy DK and other classes to play PVP with Shadow Priests, Locks and Retry Paladins after last fixes. Their damage is almost based on DoTs (ignoring Resilience mostly) and their playstyle, based on Molten input lags, lag spikes and latency looks like:
"DoT1 + Fear + 2 sec Latency + DoT2 + DoT3 + Silence + DoT4 (after 20 sec like 70% of your HP is burned while you are feared or silenced; it's BULL****!) + Stun + Potion/Wings/Chaos Bolt and other burst"
To face them you need more than 6 months of played time.
Read the UrbanJuggernautÔÇÖs guide Elemental Shaman PVP Guide 3.3.5 as the best one for PVP ele shaman on this forum.
Also look at my post to understand the Spell Penetration and Hit mechanics.
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