Should hackers be permanently banned or what els should be done to more effect

1 : permanently ban accounts
2 : forbid multiboxing , since it only allow hackers to use more than 1 char to hack and bug abuse
3 : place an ingame GM ( if needed payed) so he can react faster .. i mean whats 1200 euro per month to Warmane ... i have reported somany like many other people might aswel hire me lol .
4 : create some function to work with more speed in game to kick , or make hacking useless ( cause u will get dc'd for example ) something to that extent to discourage kids that feel they need to hack

this reporting to gm on forum is to time consuming and to little effect it seems to actually do anything to some hacker
we need to pray we have the right pictures at right time in a warzone , getting attacked , cc'd moving targets , instant teleport hackers , damage hackers (yes they can) then going on some pic to url converter site and posting all ur information to maaaaybe get a hacker banned for 30 months just for him to change ip and hop on another account


anyone got more ideas keep the post going

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Originally Posted by MaxBlaze2012

2 : forbid multiboxing , since it only allow hackers to use more than 1 char to hack and bug abuse

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excuse me please.. but... are you saying that only people who hack, and abuse bugs are multiboxing....? im sorry but that's just wrong...

I think his point is the fact that multiboxing makes it easier to farm if you are a hacker.. But see there is the so called catch 22... ALL multi boxers are not hackers, only a very few. I know several multi boxers that don't hack. But its always the bad apple in the bushel that ruins them all :(

i dont think ban multi boxers, if they had a system in place with better detection it wouldn't matter if you multi boxed or not.

I do STRONGLY believe that if the penalty was more severe, it would cut down on the hackers. Perma ban if caught on that acct, maybe even an ip ban if same ip is caught a second time hacking on another acct.

At the moment there are so many hackers cause they don't care to get caught, they all have multi accounts so big deal if one gets banned for a month or two, they just use the other while they wait out the ban.

If no system is gonna be put into place a perma ban on acct is the only solution, not just a month or two.

Just my 2 cents :)

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Originally Posted by MaxBlaze2012

2 : forbid multiboxing , since it only allow hackers to use more than 1 char to hack and bug abuse

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Well now we know who's been farmed by the multiboxers. I know I personally have never seen a multiboxer hacking.

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Originally Posted by MaxBlaze2012

3 : place an ingame GM ( if needed payed) so he can react faster

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They are in game...

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Originally Posted by MaxBlaze2012

4 : create some function to work with more speed in game to kick , or make hacking useless ( cause u will get dc'd for example ) something to that extent to discourage kids that feel they need to hack

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You realize that writing a method like that doesn't only require itself to be optimized but also much more work put into the core? It's a lot of work when player reports could solve many of the abusers if people would report instead of complain.

Ignoring the spike towards multiboxing because no, please get your facts straight, 'hacking' has nothing to do with multiboxers.

Anyway, the thing is, as sad as it is to say, there is very little to nothing that can be done to stop a true hacker from doing whatever. They have several ways to escape being denied connection to the server if they know what they're doing. The only thing you can ban is their characters, with whatever progress they might've achieved on them.

That stops the grand majority, since anyone who remotely cares about their character is very unlikely to risk it, after that, measures like sentinel can stop the majority of script kiddies who just download an already made hack with little to no knowledge of what they're doing with it aside from "hey look mom, I'm flying!".

The true hackers though, those who make their own programs that are never released to be randomly downloaded and are capable of much more than simply flying or click-to-teleport, are much, much harder to stop. Not only do they know how not to be noticed, they can't be detected by sentinel because they're not using common known methods detectable by sentinel, and as I said, even if you find them, all you can do is ban their characters, which while a setback, is not something that really stops them.

They do try to make sentinel work, and it does work against the average dumb kid as was noticeable from the large drop in BG cheating after its implementation in cataclysm, but it can only do so much against people who are determined to break the system.

What could use improvement though, is manual monitoring. There should be GMs present to respond to player outcries about very obvious flying/teleporting dummies and whatnot so they can be stopped on the spot, as opposed to after they've done damage in several battlegrounds.

Some people mix the multiboxing with having multible accounts for different reasons.Also i think you guys are playing in different expansions/realm.

im not saying all multiboxers are hackers or bad , what im trying to explain is if ur a hacker and u want to annoy people with hacks and get honor or cp cause u cant play , using multibox is a more effective way and i have seen people logging off in bg's with simliar names, the point of allowing multiboxing in official wow was cause they can ban any hacker instant to prevent abuse ... with all due respect warmane cannot do that atm so why leave it active for hackers to do what they do more effectively ... my point was if u disable or ban people from doing that it will reduce hacking by a lot

pls follow the title of this topic , and try to make the game more pleasable for people to stay on warmane instead of ignoring and putting stress on people by allowing hack to continue while u have around 5 bans a day while 100 should be banned ... just come up with more effective ways to ban people instead of spending lot of time taking the right screens at the right time following hackers from bg to bg to form a case wich they only get banned for 30 months , if there are still hackers after these measures , step up the measures i mean... we should be playing the game not working to better the game while that is to no effect

Banning multibox? Are you stupid or something, blizz allows multiboxing so why wouldt warmane?

And i multibox every now and then with 5 locks, hope i see you so i can slap the **** out of you ><

try not to make this about u enjoying multiboxing, the point is hackers use hit to hack more and at more places ... secondly on official wow (blizz) its alloud cause they can controll it basicly they can ban abusers like (hackers, Win traders) instant .. wich warmane cant .. thus making home for people to hack and abuse ... also people offering tools for hacking so making money of hacking ... if they dont do anything about it it will cost warmane

third ... my in game char is Beastysoul alliance... find me and shut up about kids multiboxing cause they get raped playing 1 char .. so u need 5 to kill me ... like i said find my char on frostwolf and shut up.

I rather have you shut up by telling that people that multibox hack more cause where is that based upon on?? Isboxer does nothing more than clone ur keys. On the other side, i have seen several people on horde that hack in bg and dont multibox!

Too bad ur on frostwolf as i am on Sarg.

realy dont care about multi boxers ,unless they are chaeting but all other hackers/cheaters should get perm ip ban,if not more if possible

I sense a "death penalty" discussion o.o


Also this is posted in the wrong section. Should be in http://forum.warmane.com/forumdispla...lm-Suggestions