Is this gonna be what we expected or not?

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Originally Posted by YamiCodenamed

Its a beta for all future realms :D Quest and Instance scripts will be ported to Cata and MoP too

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Dear Staff,

a lot of people have joined Warmane in the past few weeks because we are relishing the prospect of playing on a real blizzlike progress server. After several posts i have seen so far, i am concerned this is not gonna turn out to be what most of us have expect.

I think it would be fair to finally tell us what you really want this to look like and give us some information like:

- Naxxramas from 25th sept - xxth XX (and season 5)
- Ulduar from xx to xx (and season 6)
- Trial of the Crusader from xx to xx (and season 7)
- Icecrown Citadell from xx to xx (and season 8) and what do you intend to do with the buff

Tell us what you want this realm to be? The promised flag ship which is gonna be a progressive server, or just some hidden beta test so you can make your old people happy while disappointing the new ones you attracted with false information?

Sincerely,
someone new

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Originally Posted by T1LL

i am concerned this is not gonna turn out to be what most of us have expect.

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Yeah,no custom content/no transomg/no draining gold mechanics/and be sure marketplace will be full of gear to buy with coins,ofc 3x-5x the price and maybe some tweaks;atleast that's what i believe

you completely missed the context in which i said that...

The point of Lordaeron is to create the best possible Wrath of the Lich King experience, give you progressive releases and then port the content to ALL other realms so that we upgrade the quality of those too.

While the release of Wotlk raids is confirmed to be progressive i have no information about the duration of each tier, the minimum would have to be a month. The replies i gave about the duration are OPTIONS, what can happen and what the consequences of such timings are

Now, as for the nature of Lordaeron, it is running on a new core. Once it is live it will stay live and the others will be ported to this core. Using the word "beta" was a mistake on my part, but i hope you now know in which context i used it

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Originally Posted by YamiCodenamed

Srsly... you completely missed the context in which i said that...

The point of Lordaeron is to create the best possible Wrath of the Lich King experience, give you progressive releases and then port the content to ALL other realms so that we upgrade the quality of those too.

While the release of Wotlk raids is confirmed to be progressive i have no information about the duration of each tier, the minimum would have to be a month. The replies i gave about the duration are OPTIONS, what can happen and what the consequences of such timings are

Now, as for the nature of Lordaeron, it is running on a new core. Once it is live it will stay live and the others will be ported to this core. Using the word "beta" was a mistake on my part, but i hope you now know in which context i used it

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Im sorry if i missunderstood you - but you have to admit that "one" month per content is not enough. How are you supposed to clean Ulduar in one month? To gear up for the hardmodes and the next content? Im just concerned at the lack of information given, you guys should have made a plan by now and it would be fair to tell us something so we can actually make a plan. There might be people which ideas really rely on that information. (gearing up a specific raidsetup cant be done in 4 raid id´s)

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Originally Posted by T1LL

Im sorry if i missunderstood you - but you have to admit that "one" month per content is not enough. How are you supposed to clean Ulduar in one month? To gear up for the hardmodes and the next content? Im just concerned at the lack of information given, you guys should have made a plan by now and it would be fair to tell us something so we can actually make a plan. There might be people which ideas really rely on that information. (gearing up a specific raidsetup cant be done in 4 raid id´s)

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Having one month intervals was one option.
The thing im for myself is having something dynamic, based on the realm first kills. Eg ToC is released 2 weeks after Yogg-Saron has been defeated. The problem with that is that we do not know how long it will take guilds to clear content, it can be days upon release or months. Since pvp and pve gear should be balanced it means that you will get pvp gear at the same pace.

One solution to this issue is releasing content anyway if the players really cant clear the previous tier.
We have plenty of time to decide on how this progression will go, the release is 25th September and Northrend will only be released 2 months after that

Well, a realistic time would be 3 months for each season and content. Naxxramas is easy, but people need time to level up as well as start raiding then. 3 months for Ulduar are okey, same goes for ToC. Icc will be open forever, so you just gotta think about the buff and the changes regarding the buff.

Can´t be hard to decide that...

To avoid any confusion the release of new content should be as it was on blizzard realms. Keeping it this way you can fall back to saying its blizzlike. Don't like it? Don't play it.

To be honest I will agree that 1 month will not be enough time, but, these guilds have experience with these raids. The only difference will be the mechanic tweaks you have mentioned and the lack of class bugs, which can make life easier or even harder. I will say the top guilds, like Is A Cookie, will take 1-2 weeks to get used to the new changes an also get geared then clear within the next week. But then of course you have to give guilds that aren't as hardcore time to clear it, within reason of course whereas if they take a stupid amount of time then too late for them. Also it will give guilds time to gear up and get farming the raid. And longer season, meh just means a higher mmr than normal, no biggie.

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Originally Posted by Marukaska

To avoid any confusion the release of new content should be as it was on blizzard realms. Keeping it this way you can fall back to saying its blizzlike. Don't like it? Don't play it.

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Well, the idea of taking the same time that blizzard did on releasing tiers and raid can be an interesting thought. Problably, they had this same problem with release dates and put the time they did, thinking that it would be the right amount of time for people to do things (raid/pvp/dungeons).

If you think this way, using that time would be an easy way to solve things.

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Originally Posted by Krellian

Well, the idea of taking the same time that blizzard did on releasing tiers and raid can be an interesting thought. Problably, they had this same problem with release dates and put the time they did, thinking that it would be the right amount of time for people to do things (raid/pvp/dungeons).

If you think this way, using that time would be an easy way to solve things.

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I think this is very accurate.

Also, if you release ToC 2 weeks after Yogg, why in the world would you push the release so fast? Just because the "best" guild on the server has killed the last boss does in no way warrant the release of a new tier. There should be a "lot" (I dont know the exact number here, but 1? Come on) guilds clearing the last boss on hardmode of the previous tier before the new tier is released. The gear should also have the time to have an impact in farming better items for the guild in preperation for the next tiers release and the race to servers first, and have time to be used in PvP. Also how long does it take to create the legendary mace from Ulduar 25? I would be really dissapointing if ToC was released before Ulduar was properly "finished".

I dont see the point in rushing out content, the server will die off some time after ICC25 HC has been cleared from the hardcore guilds, so why rush this state of a server? If people are eager to raid ICC endgame, there are more than a few servers out there that offers that experience. Also, I think it would be better for the server if the tiers were out for "too long", as it would allow more less hardcore players the chance to beat the current tiers endgame, and if the hardcore raiders are bored after clearing the tier and waiting for a new tier, they could take a break from the game and come back. The reverse is not possible as once the new tier is released, it would be incredibly difficult to convince a guild/pug to stay on old content and ignore the new.

Please dont screw up the servers lifetime by rushing content, it is MUCH safer to slowroll content, as players can come back to the server after a break, than the opposite.
I myself as a hardcore raider would not enjoy every tier, if they are released too fast, as it is nice to take a semi-break after hardcore progression, before you start over in the next tier.

Well well I'm happy too see that all my rage have wake up the community about this huge problem of the length of every season. Now I hope that the staff open the eyes and start to think about lorderon like a real flagship server with a real seasons pve - pvp and not like a rush server for test class talent spell raid instance. And make a copy paste in all the others servers when Icc will be released.