Deathing, fun and pvp dedicated realm.

As many of you may have noted Deathwing realm is supposed to be fun pve and pvp realm. However, the current situation of the realm is netiher acceptable for pvp or pve. In this topic, I'd like mention something that has been continously omtted or hidden under the pile of other "more" important subjects. Probably, there are hundreds of players who just like me spend 1 or 2 hour a day to play some pvp on deathwing, however, at the moment you can't even normally do random rbg as when you queue alone you are simply thrown into faces of 10,15 or 20 BiS characters premades and furthermore you are surrounded by literally naked people. Where's the sense of competing in this? Maybe such BiS players who farm 10k hp guys feel well, but for me it's just more than stupid. There's a great need for the Deathwing to change and by change I don't only mean eradiction of many major bugs, but also countermeasuring such stupidity as these premade rbgs. I'd also like to point out that having noted 20 ppl premade in bg, players simply go afk and wait until it ends. Well you may disagree with me, but soon nobody will play pvp on deathwing except of course these morons in 20 man premade. If you feel that something should drastically changed, or at least become half as balanced as molten's deathwing was, feel free to vote this topic up.

"Molten's deathwing" and current one, pvp-wise, hasn't changed at all. If fighting against premades annoy you so well why creating your own premade and making as competitive as it can get, ins't an option of counter-measuring the situation?

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Originally Posted by ally19

As many of you may have noted Deathwing realm is supposed to be fun pve and pvp realm. However, the current situation of the realm is netiher acceptable for pvp or pve. In this topic, I'd like mention something that has been continously omtted or hidden under the pile of other "more" important subjects. Probably, there are hundreds of players who just like me spend 1 or 2 hour a day to play some pvp on deathwing, however, at the moment you can't even normally do random rbg as when you queue alone you are simply thrown into faces of 10,15 or 20 BiS characters premades and furthermore you are surrounded by literally naked people. Where's the sense of competing in this? Maybe such BiS players who farm 10k hp guys feel well, but for me it's just more than stupid. There's a great need for the Deathwing to change and by change I don't only mean eradiction of many major bugs, but also countermeasuring such stupidity as these premade rbgs. I'd also like to point out that having noted 20 ppl premade in bg, players simply go afk and wait until it ends. Well you may disagree with me, but soon nobody will play pvp on deathwing except of course these morons in 20 man premade. If you feel that something should drastically changed, or at least become half as balanced as molten's deathwing was, feel free to vote this topic up.

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Hi OP and I'd like to start off by saying I'm a long time WoW player and have spent most of my time in Retail WoW going all the way back to TBC in 2007. Now as a long time WoW player I can completely understand your frustration and feel that Blizzard has tried to cater more towards pugs then Warmane would ever dare wanna do as Warmane has a much smaller community. From a personal PoV I could never understand why premades were such a big deal to Blizzard and I feel Blizzard went about fixing premades the wrong way. Going as far back as WoTLk Retail Blizzard has tried and tried and tried to stop premades and have even tried to bend over backwards to stop premades from enter Ashran, but guess what? Premades still run in Ashran to this very day on both sides of the faction, mostly in the form of Hydra/Horde and Avenger's/Alliance (I'm a Hydra member lol).

Now as an experienced PvP'er I can honestly tell you it isn't to hard to get some friends together and que into bg's as a premade, here on Warmane I feel it should be even easier to get several friends all into the same BG and combat the other faction and give yourself a chance to win some bg's. You just can't be afraid to make some friends and work together. You'll be surprised at how many players will be willing to join you on a Vent, TeamSpeak, etc when you give a call out in trade chat/Gchat.

MMO's should be about making friends and doing things with them, not for being shunned for wanting to group up before que'ing into a battle ground.

Anyways, take care OP and good luck!

Whalecum to wotlk boy :D

One thing I've learned in my years playing WoW is that it's not a good idea to have battlegrounds be your primary source of enjoyment of the game. If they are, then there are going to be times when you absolutely hate the game since you can go out and play great but if your team-mates are outclassed, you still get stomped.

So I've tried to find other, more reliable, forms of entertainment within the game. I'll still queue an occasional bg, but if it's a fail bg, then I'll just leave and go back to what I was doing. As long as you're willing to eat your 15 minute deserter penalty, I see no obligation to play a bg full of naked teammates to the end.

Or another pet peeve of mine- the bg full of geared team-mates who only care about topping damage charts and couldn't care less about the enemy fc about to cap the flag.

There are a lot of ways bgs can stink, so I try not to rely on them very much for my enjoyment. If you do, you're going to be disappointed.