Loot and Need Before Greed!

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December 27, 2015
Dizu

Loot and Need Before Greed!

As a junior player of wotlk I do not know much about the mechanics in-game as well as the development of the gameplay. However I walked through a issue that resembles the Vanilla and TBC feature. The Need Before Greed thing. As a personal gameplay and a subjective one I cannot bear the unchanged Loot mechanics. What I am trying to say is that I level up on a priest and I was doing a few Dungeons (level 10 to 30) and it seemed strange THAT I can NEED a mail item OR an axe one, or 2h weapon except the staff. As I know the system of looting (especially the need before greed one) changed in 3.3 patch, and so I quote:

"Before patch 3.3.0, the Need before Greed Loot Level only took into account whether or not you could use the item now, not in the future. This means that if a mob drops a piece of mail requiring level 37, the level 36 warrior in the party would not be able to roll on it. Similarly, a level 39 hunter would not be able to roll on mail items even though they would be able to use it next level.

At patch 3.3.0 the system was changed so Need Before Greed will now recognize gear appropriate for a class in three ways: the class must be able to equip the item, pure melee will be unable to roll on spell power items, and classes are limited to their dominant armor type (ex. paladins for plate). All items will still be available via Greed rolls as well as the new Disenchant option should no member be able to use the item. Also, players will be able to roll on items with a required minimum level higher than then player's current level. " SOURCE: http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Need_Before_Greed

I want to know if anyone is aware of this error of the feature, and if there will be solved anytime soon cause people can just NINJA everything and no one will care afterwards. I tired to look it up on the forum but couldn't manage to find another post about this! I DO find this VERY important!

EDIT: also the same system applies for the materials and stuffs for professions.
December 27, 2015
Healsonheels

Please don't fix this. The Need function is an essential part of Lordaeron's econony.

Including mine.
December 27, 2015
Dizu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Healsonheels

Lordaeron's econony.

You want to say "Lordaeron's HARDCORE economy" ? No thankies, but you might be right; maybe in this way we will socialize more, cause we will have more ninjas to swear and to hate... yes, yes... I understand now Lordaeron's thinking! It's so brilliant!
December 27, 2015
Discore

im feral and i hate hunters cuz they roll need leather ·"$ ninjas
need to do something with that. For example: you can only roll on your character's primary armor class
December 27, 2015
Radvo

If people without enchanting could stop rolling disenchant, that'd be great.
December 28, 2015
Lestat3699

True story : Farming VH hc for days, until finaly trinket drops(hit&sp), happy time,praise the lord, etc...untill i see the healer and tank need for it and guess what the tank whos a bloody warrior win's it, and i quote him " my friend needs for os...better luck next time".
December 28, 2015
Spreed

I hope it will be enabled, it would be a big plus to Lordaeron
December 28, 2015
Kemii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discore

im feral and i hate hunters cuz they roll need leather ·"$ ninjas
need to do something with that. For example: you can only roll on your character's primary armor class

This isnt Cata onwards..
Other armor types have stats which are BIS for some classes.
Like paladins BIS items are half leather half plate.
DKs like some Leather gear for Armor Pen, same with hunters and warriors.

Get over it.
December 28, 2015
Vixen

Quote:

True story : Farming VH hc for days, until finaly trinket drops(hit&sp), happy time,praise the lord, etc...untill i see the healer and tank need for it and guess what the tank whos a bloody warrior win's it, and i quote him " my friend needs for os...better luck next time".

Typical. Soon we will start seeing "item X reserved" and master loot in 5 mans >.>
December 28, 2015
Healsonheels

I run Dungeons with Guildmates. When someone wants something he says in TeamSpeak: I want that item. We all press Need. Trade. Put the rest of the group on Ignore.

Sometimes I don't get the item that I wanted.

My guildmate did so it's cool, trade.
December 31, 2015
jhjhgjhg

I noticed that there is a ninja in 5/8 daily heroics I do.

Its ridiculous. Last time I won an item for my class was 3 days ago.

Now mages are rolling for epic agility staff and then they are trying to sell it to you for 1k.

I reported like 5 ninjas and nobody got banned.

Please look at this bull**** need system.
December 31, 2015
yairomii

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhjhgjhg

I noticed that there is a ninja in 5/8 daily heroics I do.

Its ridiculous. Last time I won an item for my class was 3 days ago.

Yeah, there's something in it. Yesterday some boomking needed on spirit + use SP trinket, and was asking why'd resto shaman even need it... He won it obviously. It's just one of maaaany examples. #RDFLootWasGood
January 2, 2016
Guldash

I see another reason to implement a RDF system with everything except the "teleport to dungeons" and rewords parts. Cause after reading this i now think that the best solution is to make my own party's or don`t go at all.